Episode of Bardock: Giant On-Going Manga + Anime Discussion

[DNA]

I wish she would make a one shot or something that would explain what happened in her vision. We already know Freeza didn't use Death Ball, and apparently Dodoria didn't blast Bardock away.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I wish she would make a one shot or something that would explain what happened in her vision. We already know Freeza didn't use Death Ball, and apparently Dodoria didn't blast Bardock away.

Maybe we could count Dodoria's attack as something like filler to the manga, and Freeza's attack may have been changed, like for example, in the original manga Freeza killed Cargot, while in the anime, Dodoria killed him. So, maybe Bardock got there, saw his dead comrades, left to fight Freeza and got his injures we saw by Freeza's men.

[DNA]

Also, Bardock doesn't display any pre-cognitive abilities, so Tooro might have never attacked him as well.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Also, Bardock doesn't display any pre-cognitive abilities, so Tooro might have never attacked him as well.

Or maybe Naho just forgot about his ability

[caejones]

I don't mind the lack of PSYCHIC! Bardock, since that seemed like a completely useless thing to add to the TV special in the first place. "Now he's psychic. Just because."

[kaialone]

I don't mind the lack of PSYCHIC! Bardock, since that seemed like a completely useless thing to add to the TV special in the first place. "Now he's psychic. Just because."

I could imagine that his psychic abblilities were only temporary and also "just because" as you said.

[DNA]

It's not like it makes any difference at all. Bardock would still know about Freeza's betrayal via Dodoria's Elite. Dodoria doesn't even need to make an appearance.

[Herms]

Well, I guess I ought to translate the last chapter, since I did the other two. Hard to feel motivated when it's (in my opinion) kind of a letdown.

Page 1
Beri: Wha…What’s going on?...
Beri: Dad!
Beri: Are you alright, dad? What’s happened to Bardock?...
Beri: Ba…
Beri: Bardock!

Page 2
Chilled: Man, I was wondering how strong you were since you killed my henchmen, but this is pretty anticlimactic.
Chilled: I was even going to let you serve me if you were good enough, but…
Chilled: I don’t need someone as weak as you!
Beri: Sto…
Beri: Stop!
Chilled: Don’t interfere.

Page 3
Ipana: Be…
Ipana: Beri!
Chilled: [r] Hmph…Who was the piece of trash?...[l]
But no more interruptions. I’ll kill you for real this time.
Bardock: [r] Guguh…[l] Truly…pathetic…
Bardock: [r] If I had more power…[l] I wouldn’t have lost back then either…
Bardock: [r] …You alone…[l] You alone…

Page 4
Bardock: Uoooooooh
Bardock: Freeza!

Page 5
Bardock: What the hell’s this?...This overflowing power…
Chilled: Wha…What just happened…? He’s different than before…
Bardock: [r] You alone… [l] I cannot forgive!

Page 6
Chilled: [r] Hmph! [l] Don’t get cocky just because you’ve got gold hair now…
Chilled: *smirk*

Page 7
Chilled: Gyahahahaha!
Random people: Uh…Uwaaaah!
Chilled: [r] Looks like getting gold hair didn’t change a thing! [l] Those blasts all hit you head-on!

Page 8
Chilled: [r] …Wha…[l] What are you…
Bardock: [r] I’m just a Saiyan…[l] Probably…
Chilled: [r] Sa…Saiyan!?...[l] …What’s that…?
Bardock: You ready for this?
Chilled: I can’t accept this! I won’t…!
Chilled: [r] I’m the great space pirate Chilled! [l] There couldn’t possibly be anyone in this world stronger than me!

Page 9
Chilled: I’ll just blow away this whole filthy little planet!
Chilled: [r] You’re all dead! [l] Gyahahahahahaha!

Page 10
Bardock: No…
Bardock: You are!

Page 11
Chilled: My ki’s getting pushed back…!

Page 12
Chilled: Heh!?
Chilled: [r] Impossible…[l] I…I can’t…!
Chilled: Uwaaaaaaah!

Page 13
Villagers: Ah…Aah…
Villagers: [r] He did it…[l] He really did it!
Beri: Bardock!

Page 14
Chilled: Uh…Uuh…
Chilled’s speech bubbles: Hah hah hah
Chilled thinking: I can’t believe this is happening to me…
Mooks: [r] I’ve found Lord Chilled…There’s his life reading…! [l] Alright! Bring him in at once…!
Mook: Lord Chilled…Wh-What in the world happened?…

Page 15
Chilled: Hah Hah Hah
Chilled: …T-Tell my clan…
Chilled: [r] …T-To watch out for people called “Saiyans”…[l] Who can become gold…
Chilled falls down: *Gakuh*
Mooks: L-Lord Chilled!
Narrator thing on the sides or whatever: The Super Saiyan, mightiest of warriors!! That legend would be passed down throughout Freeza’s clan…!!

[kaialone]

Thanks Herms!

Also Chilled seems rather cool with dying, judging from that dialouge. Unless that isnt him laughing, but him gasping for air.

[Herms]

Unless that isnt him laughing, but him gasping for air.

It's him gasping.

[NeoKING]

Chilld mentions "Ki" ... I thought the aliens or whatever didn't know about that and just called it "Energy" or something?

[Fox666]

Chilld mentions "Ki" ... I thought the aliens or whatever didn't know about that and just called it "Energy" or something?

Chilled says his "ki’s getting pushed back" meaning he is refering to the Ki attack, not the Ki sensing ability.

If Vegeta mentioned "Kiai" when Goku deflected Nappa's blast, there is nothing wrong with the aliens using the word "Ki".

[Herms]

Chilld mentions "Ki" ... I thought the aliens or whatever didn't know about that and just called it "Energy" or something?

Hey, that's right! Didn't catch on to that, but yeah, that's what he says. Freeza and co. in the present mostly use "battle power" as a synonym for ki, or sometimes the English word "power" or German "energie". Chilled's use of "ki" could either be a slip-up, or a sign that Chilled's different than his ancestors (perhaps slightly more spiritually aware). Also, the phrase "battle power" is pretty strongly associated with scouters, and Chilled and his men don't have those yet.

If Vegeta mentioned "Kiai" when Goku deflected Nappa's blast, there is nothing wrong with the aliens using the word "Ki".

Well, the "ki" in "kiai" doesn't particularly mean DB's mystical super energy. It has more to do with breathing, and in everyday circumstances doing something with a "kiai" means throwing yourself into a task with vigor or a big yell. In martial arts it refers to a yell or exhalation before striking. In DB things get really silly and exaggerated, so shouting like that becomes a powerful attack in its own right (at least when fighting someone a lot weaker than oneself), so the line between it and ki attacks can get somewhat blurry, but it's not a term that on its own has anything to do with DB-style ki.

Vegeta also uses expressions like ki ni naru (referring to something being on your mind or bugging you), where ki stands for one's mind or feelings. Him saying stuff like that isn't in contradiction to the fact that he doesn't use ki in the sense of DB life energy/power until the Boo arc.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well, I expected the last one to be longer than the others, but anyway... What we learned from this 3-part special:
- Bardock is the legendary Super Saiyan 1000 years ago
- Chilled, Freeza's ancestor was also a space pirate and was defeated be the first SSJ and he warned his descendants about the Saiyans.
- There where other inhabitants in Planet Plant, besides the Tsufurians and the Saiyans.
- Where the healing capsules' healing liquid came from.
- Planet explosions can rip dimensions, here Bardock went back in time.

It was enjoying for me, though I was expecting more from this. I hope we will see it as an OVA in Ultimate Tenkaichi/Blast.

[Mountain]

\It was enjoying for me, though I was expecting more from this. I hope we will see it as an OVA in Ultimate Tenkaichi/Blast.

I would love that so much.

[caejones]

If getting caught in the path of a planet-busting blast and managing to survive sends people into another time/dimention/whatever, then it's a safe bet that every single person that ever pissed off Freeza is their own ancestor.

Also, this makes the primmace of my DBZ/Starwars fic feel less ridiculous. ... Actually, no, somehow it makes it feel more ridiculous.

[kaialone]

Chilled's use of "ki" could either be a slip-up, or a sign that Chilled's different than his ancestors (perhaps slightly more spiritually aware)

I think descensdants is what you meant.

Also, I still like to think the Plantians were Planet Plant´s original inhabitants and that Freeza later destroyed them and sold the Planet to the Tsufuru-jin. This is my fanon now.

[DarkGokuZ]

Chapter is out.

The chapter was.. Well it was okay, a little disappointed though..

[PuppetDoctor]

I found the final chapter disappointing. It never explained how Bardock traveled back in time, and about the inhabitants of Planet Plant. There is just so many unanswered questions left here.

The one thing I noticed throughout the chapter was I was being reminded of the Freeza and Baby saga. When Chilled raised that giant Ki ball it reminded me of the Freeza saga and when Bardock blasted Chilled into space it reminded me of the Baby saga.

I guess it was nice to have new content and it was better than Dragon Ball SD (in my opinion) but it just didn't answer a lot of the questions it introduced. It would have been nice if there was even an extra chapter to explain all of these questions but I guess the main point was to explain how Bardock became a Super Saiyan.

[DNA]

The whole thing was ok, it's nice to see new stuff.
It answered the question of how Bardock turned Super Saiyan, the origin of the legend and how the Freeza clan knows about it. Although I distinctly remember that Cold didn't seem to care. It also shows where the medical restoring liquid came from.
It raises the questions of how did Bardock survive and was transported to the past and where the heck did the Tsufurians came from. So maybe Baby was right and there is a planet Tsufur.