Maybe the explosion was so powerfulthet ripped the dimensions, like when Boo screamed and released so much power, he opened a hole between the Earth dimension and the Room of Spirit and Time dimension. And the Tsufurians must be living somewhere else, the planet is so big. Maybe in the cities the Tsufurians were living and in the villages the Plantians were living (and later the Saiyans in the caves). And when did Bebi mentioned Planet Tsufur?DNA wrote:It raises the questions of how did Bardock survive and was transported to the past and where the heck did the Tsufurians came from. So maybe Baby was right and there is a planet Tsufur.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yeah, I just read the scanlations. It's a pretty interesting take on the legend, really. But what I'm wondering is, is this whole thing canon to the franchise, or just a little side story to promote SSJ Bardock's appearance in DB Heroes?
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Did Anime Labs translate this? What is with the unneeded cursing, and name suffixes?
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Personaly, I even consider this canon to the manga. It doesn't contradict any thing on the manga, it is accepted by Toriyama, so yeah, it's mostly canon if you ask me.Super Klonoa wrote:Yeah, I just read the scanlations. It's a pretty interesting take on the legend, really. But what I'm wondering is, is this whole thing canon to the franchise, or just a little side story to promote SSJ Bardock's appearance in DB Heroes?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I read and I have to be honest, I can't take it seriously.
Yes, it's an interesting take on the legend, but at the same time, ruins the feeling that OVA left me with.
It might also have something to do with me not liking those Plantians. Those design looks so ridiculous to me, even by DB standarts. They look like they are from another show.
And Bardock reaching SSJ hasn't been done well enough to be believable.
Yes, it's an interesting take on the legend, but at the same time, ruins the feeling that OVA left me with.
It might also have something to do with me not liking those Plantians. Those design looks so ridiculous to me, even by DB standarts. They look like they are from another show.
And Bardock reaching SSJ hasn't been done well enough to be believable.
Re: Naho Ooishi's 3-Chapter V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock
Is this the last chapter? I didn't really get the last 5 panels.
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It was Chilled dying.hleV wrote:Is this the last chapter? I didn't really get the last 5 panels.
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After reading all three chapters, I have to say that it was pretty much exactly what I expected. 3/5, for me.
Re: Naho Ooishi's 3-Chapter V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock
The special was enjoyable. Like others though, I think it would be better if they had an explanation for some of the things that went on. Like how exactly did Bardock go to the past? Was it because of some odd reaction due to his ability to see the future?(interesting to note he doesn't seem to express this ability in this manga special)
Anyway, I wonder how powerful Bardock was after being healed up in this 3 part special. After all, it's not just the emotional requirements...you need a high enough battle power to reach the legendary transformation. His last recorded battle power wasn't even up to 10,000. To be considered the mightiest in the universe, I wonder how powerful Chilled was as well.
Anyway, I wonder how powerful Bardock was after being healed up in this 3 part special. After all, it's not just the emotional requirements...you need a high enough battle power to reach the legendary transformation. His last recorded battle power wasn't even up to 10,000. To be considered the mightiest in the universe, I wonder how powerful Chilled was as well.
Are we sure he died? Seemed like he merely collapsed.Drabaz wrote:It was Chilled dying.hleV wrote:Is this the last chapter? I didn't really get the last 5 panels.
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Not much point in instructing those henchmen to warn his clan about the Super Saiyan if he wasn't on death's door. If he survived he'd just be able to warn them himself.lash wrote:Are we sure he died? Seemed like he merely collapsed.
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I dunno. As an intergalactic space pirate, I just figure he'd have everyone do everything for him just because he's well...the goddamn boss. Kind of like Freeza instructing Appule to contact the Ginyu force when he was just standing there staring out a window.
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They seem like a dead man's last words to me...lash wrote:I dunno. As an intergalactic space pirate, I just figure he'd have everyone do everything for him just because he's well...the goddamn boss. Kind of like Freeza instructing Appule to contact the Ginyu force when he was just standing there staring out a window.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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So what now? Should we believe that Bardock is indeed the legendary Super Saiyan?
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He IS the legendary Super Saiyan. I can't see why not.SylentEcho wrote:So what now? Should we believe that Bardock is indeed the legendary Super Saiyan?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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In this manga, at least. If you want to make it part of your canon or whatever, then that's up to you.SylentEcho wrote:So what now? Should we believe that Bardock is indeed the legendary Super Saiyan?
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Making Bardock the Legendary Super Saiyan is just really, really dumb to be honest. There is so many holes with that concept alone, in particular when you try to line it up with the anime canon which this is said to be a sequel to.
I somewhat enjoyed this, but the ending was just too underwhelming overall.
I somewhat enjoyed this, but the ending was just too underwhelming overall.
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So don't. This special won't and isn't retroactively going to change the events that have happened in DB.Luke Groundwalker wrote:Making Bardock the Legendary Super Saiyan is just really, really dumb to be honest. There is so many holes with that concept alone, in particular when you try to line it up with the anime canon which this is said to be a sequel to.
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Perhaps. It was just weird how the whole thing was shown there. He has enough vigor to casually take his life support mask off himself, yet dies right after?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:They seem like a dead man's last words to me...lash wrote:I dunno. As an intergalactic space pirate, I just figure he'd have everyone do everything for him just because he's well...the goddamn boss. Kind of like Freeza instructing Appule to contact the Ginyu force when he was just standing there staring out a window.
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Re: Naho Ooishi's 3-Chapter V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock
It seems for me he would be on par with the likes of Dodoria or Zarbon, more than enough to erase an planet.lash wrote:Anyway, I wonder how powerful Bardock was after being healed up in this 3 part special. After all, it's not just the emotional requirements...you need a high enough battle power to reach the legendary transformation. His last recorded battle power wasn't even up to 10,000. To be considered the mightiest in the universe, I wonder how powerful Chilled was as well.