That wasn't the reason Goku spared Vegeta, though. He explicitly stated that it was a shame for such a strong guy that made him so scared and helpless to die, expressing that he wanted to fight him again.SSJkid wrote:Vegeta is dying, if he killed a dying and helpless Vegeta, do you think that's pure heart?Piccolo Daimao wrote:Nonetheless, knowing the potential consequences of what could happen afterwards (Goku even regretted sparing Vegeta after he learned that he was on Namek with Bulma, Kuririn and Gohan), he's still repeatedly put a good fight over the safety of his home planet and, subsequently, his friends and family. Goku can't even hide behind his "innocence" anymore, because he's well aware of his selfish actions. And people that are pure-hearted aren't selfish.
No, Goku's main reason for sparing Dr. Gero was because he wanted to fight the Androids. He then added something along the lines of, "Besides, it wouldn't be nice to kill him before he's even made the Androids." But it's obvious that was just bullshit to justify his selfish decision to Bulma.SSJkid wrote:About the Androids, Goku's reason was Dr. Gero is helpless and isn't doing anything wrong at that time. Do you think killing a helpless Scientist is pure heart?Piccolo Daimao wrote:And choosing to stay dead in order to prevent evil from purging the Earth again doesn't excuse deliberately allowing an evil scientist to build Androids that are said to kill you and your friends in three years rather than using the DBs to find and kill him before the shits the fan, just because you want to fight them.
About SSJ3 Goku not beating Fat Buu, it's for the better cause, he wants the new generations from the living world to handle any future threats. Do you think it's selfish to think about the new generations and their future?
And Goku was well aware that, by sparing Fat Boo, he'd cause the deaths of millions of people around the world. If he wanted the new generation to handle future threats, then he should've defeated Fat Boo first and then had Goten and Trunks trained, by Piccolo or whoever, in order to defend the planet (that's if they actually want to or have the motivation, as we saw how he fucked up with Gohan, and surprise surprise, Goten and Trunks grew up and started having normal lives rather than having fun fighting each other like when they were kids). Not go by an ill-advised gamble and put the fate of the planet in the hands of two seven and eight-year-olds who, surprise surprise, did fuck it up, when you could've simply destroyed the villain with your own power before he transformed, killed the majority of the population and blew up Earth.
Whether or not it's a gag scene, the implications are still there. We don't know whether or not Bulma was actually sexually harrassed after they defeated Majin Boo, but Vegeta still got mad about Goku's promise, and it's not up to us to speculate about whether or not the old Kaioshin got to feel up Bulma.SSJkid wrote:It's more of a gag scene or if you still insists about the sexual assault argument, where's the sexual harrassment after they beat Majin-Buu? It's an agreement or for you a very serious agreement but where it is?Piccolo Daimao wrote:And yeah, it may've been "for a greater cause", but it still doesn't excuse the fact that Goku used his oldest friend to be sexually harrassed by yet another old man. I don't know what it says in the original, but in Viz, Goku originally says to the old Kaioshin that he'll let him meet a real woman (Bulma), and later he says that he'll get the old Kaioishin a "naughty picture" of Bulma. When Vegeta protests and tells Goku to give him a picture of his own wife, Goku replies that Chi-Chi's "flat-chested". However, "naughty picture" looks like a case of censorship, so it's probably worser in the original.
And the definition of sexual assault includes this:
I'd say Goku offering to let old Kaioshin go on a date with/feel up/see a "naughty picture" of Bulma without her consent, in exchange for the Kaioshin powering up Gohan, counts as sexual assault or harrassment.Wikipedia on sexual assault wrote:The term sexual assault is used, in public discourse, as a generic term that is defined as any involuntary sexual act in which a person is threatened, coerced, or forced to engage against their will, or any sexual touching of a person who has not consented. This includes rape (such as forced vaginal, anal or oral penetration), inappropriate touching, forced kissing, child sexual abuse, or the torture of the victim in a sexual manner.
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Sexual harassment is intimidation, bullying or coercion of a sexual nature, or the unwelcome or inappropriate promise of rewards in exchange for sexual favors. In the United States, sexual harassment is a form of discrimination which violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The legal and social definition of what constitutes sexual harassment differ widely by culture. Sexual harassment includes a wide range of behaviors from seemingly mild transgressions to serious forms of abuse, and some forms of sexual harassment overlap with sexual assault. Sexual Harassment may include leering, pressure for dates, pressing or rubbing against a person, obscene phone calls, bra snapping, wolf-whistles, lip-smacking, indecent exposure, sexual discrimination, displaying explicit materials, sexist jokes, unwanted grabbing, comments about person's body, soliciting sexual services.
Seriously, all your argument about Goku being wicked, evil and selfish is a straight forward-not thinking. Just think about why did Goku let Vegeta, Doctor Gero and Fat Buu live, is it an act of evil? Do you think mercy is about being selfish?
If you're doing this because of SSJ3 Goku vs Ghost Rider, goodluck, Ghost Rider doesn't have the strength, speed, fire power and durability to go toe-to-toe. Also, Ghost Rider has been knocked out before or he doesn't have a record of 0 loss against peak humans/above and you don't need to kill to get a win.
And I'm not arguing that Goku's wicked or evil. Selfish, yes, because of the reasons I aforementioned. But the fact of the matter is that Goku didn't spare Vegeta and Dr. Gero out of mercy. He spared them because he wanted to fight Vegeta again and fight the Androids. Both incredibly risky decisions with no clear outcome where Goku should've thought about people other than himself and his own addiction for once. With Fat Boo, I'll give you that. He did explain that Vegeta shouldn't kill Fat Boo because he helped them fight Kid Boo.
