Freeza's Techniques

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Freeza's Techniques

Post by DNA » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:53 pm

After reading around Herms translations and stuff, there's still a bunch of techniques that aren't listed for some reason, I realized that Death Beam is simply called "Ki Blast from the fingertips", is Death Beam just used in games?
What about Death Ball, the move he used to destroy Namek, the move he used to kill Kuririn, and more stuff.
What about Coola, do he's techniques have any names at all?

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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:47 pm

Yeah, I don't think Freeza has any of his attacks named outside of the games. Haven't looked over the translations in awhile, so I'll have to check that out. The signature techniques that stand out for Freeza to me are the ones you mentioned, his cutting attack that split namek, the Imprisonment Ball, and his unique kienzan. I think that's it.

The attack Cooler used to try to blow up the earth was called Supernova. I don't think it was named anywhere else.
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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by Herms » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:54 pm

DNA wrote:I realized that Death Beam is simply called "Ki Blast from the fingertips", is Death Beam just used in games?
I think it originates in the games. The name "Death Beam" definitely isn't used in the manga, and I don't think it's used in the anime either.
What about Death Ball, the move he used to destroy Namek,
Not in there, and probably the biggest omission in my view, since that attack's rather important to the story. "Death Ball" itself is another name that only came later via the video games, but there's still nothing in the attack dictionary that corresponds to Freeza's attack that destroys Namek. The closest thing is that the entry for Boo's Earth-destroying attack mentions that Freeza has a similar technique.
the move he used to kill Kuririn, and more stuff.
Part of it is probably that once you move away from techniques with proper names, it becomes difficult to decide precisely what is and isn't distinctive enough to warrant its own entry as a unique technique. Daizenshuu 7 did end up including quite a few things like Freeza's blowing-people-away-with-his-breath attack, or Goku's Flying By Spinning his Tail, or Aqua's Ability to Turn Anywhere into Water (my personal favorite), but I think they still needed to draw the line somewhere or the dictionary would go on forever.
What about Coola, do he's techniques have any names at all?
I don't think any of his techniques are named in the movies, and again it's only later video games that assign them names. So that's probably one of the reasons he and the other movie characters' techniques aren't covered as extensively in Daizenshuu 7's attack dictionary as the manga stuff. I mean, how many movie-only attacks are given proper names within the actual moves? There's Goku's Dragon Fist, and No.13's SS Deadly Bomber, and I think that's about it.

In addition, Daizenshuu 7's various dictionaries are notably more lax when it comes to anything anime-only. So while the character dictionary includes such manga "characters" as the reporter lady who talks about Cell for one panel, or Uranai Baba's skeleton guard who never moves or speaks, several filler characters with actual names get left out. It's basically the same thing with the anime-only techniques. So that's why Broli only gets Super Saiyan and Barrier listed as his techniques.
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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by Fox666 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:15 pm

Herms wrote:
DNA wrote:I realized that Death Beam is simply called "Ki Blast from the fingertips", is Death Beam just used in games?
I think it originates in the games. The name "Death Beam" definitely isn't used in the manga, and I don't think it's used in the anime either.
I suppose it is more appropriate to say that the technique has no name at all, thus it is refered by a generic terminology.

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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by DNA » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:18 pm

Hmm, I was just researching and actually, like I thought, the technique called Death Ball and the one he uses to destroy Namek are different. Death Ball is the one he uses to destroy Vegeta, the same one he uses against Trunks and the same one Coola uses although his is called Supernova.

The one that Freeza uses to destroy Namek is a small orb he quickly gather between his palms above his hand, just before launching it into Nameks core.

He also has another mysterious technique, a small black electrical orb which he gather with one finger just before Goku hits him with the Genkidama.

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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:39 pm

They've bounced around a lot on the naming of these techniques over the course of DBZ's games...I remember when Death Beam was called Freeza Beam. lol My general outlook is that Freeza destroys planet Vegeta and attacks Trunks with Coola's Supernova, and the Death Ball is the odd one fingered black orb from before Goku launches his Genki Dama, and then Freeza blows up Namek's core with some sort of quick charge, two handed version of the technique.
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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by Fox666 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:27 pm

DNA wrote:He also has another mysterious technique, a small black electrical orb which he gather with one finger just before Goku hits him with the Genkidama.
Probably that's Toriyama's interpretation of the Death Ball, which first appeared in Bardock TV special. Note that the technique is also foreshadowed earlier in the panel of Bardock dying in the explosion of planet Vegeta.

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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:27 pm

Might as well throw out the game names I can remember.

Finger Beam- Death Beam
Namek Planet Cutter- Death Wave (Budokai), Energy Cutter (Tenkaichi)
Death Ball- Death Ball
Namek Killing Ball- "Destroy the Planet!" (Oh T3 and your dialogue-themed attack names :roll: )
Kienzan- Death Saucer (Tenkaichi)

We also got "Nova Strike" to emulate the various tackles Freeza throws out at 100%.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:36 pm

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:Namek Killing Ball- "Destroy the Planet!" (Oh T3 and your dialogue-themed attack names :roll: )
The tradition continues in the Raging Blast games with some of his techniques being named: "Destroy The Planet!", "It's Just Getting Exciting!", "You Thought That Was It?", "You Might Die This Time", "I won't let you escape with your life!", and "You Will Die By My Hand!".
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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by DNA » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:03 am

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:Finger Beam- Death Beam
Namek Planet Cutter- Death Wave (Budokai), Energy Cutter (Tenkaichi)
Those two are officially called "Ki blast from the fingertips" and "Daichi-retsuzan" respectively. I prefer Death Beam at least, but I like to remain official.

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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:21 am

DNA wrote:
BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:Finger Beam- Death Beam
Namek Planet Cutter- Death Wave (Budokai), Energy Cutter (Tenkaichi)
Those two are officially called "Ki blast from the fingertips" and "Daichi-retsuzan" respectively. I prefer Death Beam at least, but I like to remain official.
Daizenshuu names, I'd imagine?
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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by DNA » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:50 am

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:Daizenshuu names, I'd imagine?
Yes they are.

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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:10 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:Namek Killing Ball- "Destroy the Planet!" (Oh T3 and your dialogue-themed attack names :roll: )
The tradition continues in the Raging Blast games with some of his techniques being named: "Destroy The Planet!", "It's Just Getting Exciting!", "You Thought That Was It?", "You Might Die This Time", "I won't let you escape with your life!", and "You Will Die By My Hand!".
I guess they just got lazy or bored of making up names for unnamed attacks.
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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by Herms » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:22 pm

DNA wrote:Those two are officially called "Ki blast from the fingertips" and "Daichi-retsuzan" respectively. I prefer Death Beam at least, but I like to remain official.
Well, it's not like the video games are unofficial. And the Daizenshuu 7 names for techniques that aren't given names in the series all seem more like provisional names assigned for the sake of cataloging them rather than proper names.
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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by DNA » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:43 pm

You are making me confused Herms... I don't know what's real no more :(
Please O great sage, tell me what I should take as official and what not. orz

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Re: Freeza's Techniques

Post by Fox666 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:07 pm

It seems to me that the videogames made-up things that have no preceding. So I recommend to use the Daizenshuu as reference.

The problem is that the Daizenshuu doesn't give proper names for the techniques, they pratically say "that shining thing Freeza does with his finger". In other words, these techniques have no name, are just a peculiar move of a character.

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