FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

[Pokewhiz7]

Just because someone's a dub fan, doesn't even mean they're a fan of FUNi's in-house dub of the series. There are plenty of other dubs.

Ah yes, you can go onto the Dragon Boxes and change the audio to the Big Green or Malaysian dubs.

[AgitoZ]

I was mainly getting at the notion that the Orange Bricks are for dub fans. Which ones exactly? Nostalgia was certainly a factor in their success, but mostly from vague memories of those who watched DBZ when they were younger. I mean the dub(s) that was on TV isn't even completely on it. There's the replacement of the Ocean-cast for the first two "seasons" and music, plenty of line changes later on. Why should dub fans automatically mean FUNi in-house dub fans?

Ah yes, you can go onto the Dragon Boxes and change the audio to the Big Green or Malaysian dubs.

Ah...um...hmm? I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at...

[Pokewhiz7]

I was mainly getting at the notion that the Orange Bricks are for dub fans. Which ones exactly? Nostalgia was certainly a factor in their success, but mostly from vague memories of those who watched DBZ when they were younger. I mean the dub(s) that was on TV isn't even completely on it. There's the replacement of the Ocean-cast for the first two "seasons" and music, plenty of line changes later on. Why should dub fans automatically mean FUNi in-house dub fans?

Ah yes, you can go onto the Dragon Boxes and change the audio to the Big Green or Malaysian dubs.

Ah...um...hmm? I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at...

Well, you were talking about all these other dubs, and I was saying that the Funi dub is the only dub on the Dragon Boxes.

[Ringworm128]

As much as I would like the Dragon Box's to be the best looking release, it cant be.

At this point, it looks like the Blu-Rays have no quality disadvantage over the Dragon Box. It is 1080p with corrected colors, removed jitter, with more image visible and without the black border buffer present in some of the Dragon Box episodes. Image quality wise I believe the Blu-Rays will be the best, features/collector value wise, the Dragon Box sets are king.

I think the DBOXs main advantage is having the original masters which are better quality even if their only 480p. Though if the BRs had DBOX masters (then again I'm not the expert on film masters so maybe they would look worse if they were scanned at 1080p.)

[bkev]

At that point doesn't it become more about what resolution the restoration was completed at rather than the original scan? They could have done the work in 480 but the raw scans are of higher quality. God I don't know.

[Puto]

... or the proper animation for the openings, endings...

I think the Orange Bricks did have the right animations for the openings (and the ending animations don't change so the point is moot there).

[bkev]

The Orange Bricks didn't have the first Cha-La, I think. Also, the credits were the same in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE on the Japanese angle.

I requested this earlier, but nobody responded. Does anyone at least have the UUC version of the Nappa shot? I honestly think the possibly excessive grain structure is very reminiscent of it.

[Puto]

Well, movie 1 definitely had the first Cha-la animation, except for the "capsule flying towards the screen" part. Not sure about the bricks.

[JulieYBM]

... or the proper animation for the openings, endings...

I think the Orange Bricks did have the right animations for the openings (and the ending animations don't change so the point is moot there).

Whoops. By 'animation', I meant 'credits'. The credits are obviously hard printed onto the film for each episode, so they become a part of the animation. Considering that each episode has its own set of credits, they have their own specific 'animation'.

[jjgp1112]

... or the proper animation for the openings, endings...

I think the Orange Bricks did have the right animations for the openings (and the ending animations don't change so the point is moot there).

Whoops. By 'animation', I meant 'credits'. The credits are obviously hard printed onto the film for each, so they become a part of the animation and in my head they were simply the same thing, espicially considering that each episode has its own set of credits, thus its own specific 'animation'.

Well, actually, every episode uses the EXACT same animation, credits and all, until they make a slight change. Episodes 21-119, for example, all had the exact same opening animation.

[JulieYBM]

Well, actually, every episode uses the EXACT same animation, credits and all, until they make a slight change. Episodes 21-119, for example, all had the exact same opening animation.

Whoops. By 'animation', I meant 'credits'. The credits are obviously hard printed onto the film for each, so they become a part of the animation and in my head they were simply the same thing, espicially considering that each episode has its own set of credits, thus its own specific 'animation'.[/quote]Well, actually, every episode uses the EXACT same animation, credits and all, until they make a slight change. Episodes 21-119, for example, all had the exact same opening animation.[/quote]

Changed the wording of my post. Babysitting's made me a little scatter-brained.

To recap: the credits (which are changed for each episode to reflect staff) are applied to the animation. They're not like the soft-subs on a DVD or Blu-ray, so you can't turn them off, which means they're litterally a part of the animation for each individual episode. FUNimation's not going to include the original animations (credits) anymore (like their releases for Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT on Blu-ray), so obviously it won't be the completed episodes with all of their animation.

[jjgp1112]

Well, yeah, that's what I mean. Every episode animation had the same credits. The ending is a different story, but the opening credits are the same generic credits every episode (Original Story, Series Director, Production, OP and ED song info, etc). On the DBox, every opening animation from episodes 21-119 looks EXACTLY the same. Same colors, framing, text, etc. For the EDs, the colors may vary a bit from episode to episode, but the OPs are identical.

[sangofe]

Well, actually, every episode uses the EXACT same animation, credits and all, until they make a slight change. Episodes 21-119, for

To recap: the credits (which are changed for each episode to reflect staff) are applied to the animation. They're not like the soft-subs on a DVD or Blu-ray, so you can't turn them off, which means they're litterally a part of the animation for each individual episode. FUNimation's not going to include the original animations (credits) anymore (like their releases for Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT on Blu-ray), so obviously it won't be the completed episodes with all of their animation.

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to make credits softsubbed since it's very much possible with fansubs.

[Corpsecreate]

Interesting things I noticed when comparing Dragon Box to Remastered Sets:

1. The Intermission Scene/Eye Catch is a different scene for every episode in both sets. Different in the sense that they go for different lengths and have slightly different coloring. The Remastered sets intermission are also always longer than the DBOX sets.

2. After the Title Cards, the Remastered Sets ALWAYS have 1 extra frame than the Dragon Box sets up to the intermission.

3. The Remastered sets usually have additional frames (repeated frames) at the end of each episode because the announcer is still speaking. In some cases the Remastered sets have less frames at the end.

[Gaffer Tape]

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to make credits softsubbed since it's very much possible with fansubs.

Why would you want to, though? They're part of the show. Also, I rarely trust player-generated text to not look like player-generated text.

[sangofe]

Interesting things I noticed when comparing Dragon Box to Remastered Sets:

1. The Intermission Scene/Eye Catch is a different scene for every episode in both sets. Different in the sense that they go for different lengths and have slightly different coloring. The Remastered sets intermission are also always longer than the DBOX sets.

2. After the Title Cards, the Remastered Sets ALWAYS have 1 extra frame than the Dragon Box sets up to the intermission.

3. The Remastered sets usually have additional frames (repeated frames) at the end of each episode because the announcer is still speaking. In some cases the Remastered sets have less frames at the end.

I'm a bit confused when you write "remastered" sets? Which remastered sets? The season sets, the ultimate uncut sets, or did you magically see the remastered Blu-Ray sets?

[Corpsecreate]

I meant the season sets AKA orange bricks. I wish I was capable of such sorcery but alas, I am not

[JulieYBM]

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to make credits softsubbed since it's very much possible with fansubs.

Why would you want to, though? They're part of the show. Also, I rarely trust player-generated text to not look like player-generated text.

Not to mention that's a little hard to do with a show that's been fully produced for fifteen years...

[Puto]

Personally, I'd like to see fully translated OP/ED credits like in the Kai discs, instead of just leaving everything textless.

[Soul]

Vic Mignogna singing Head Cha-La? Hmm...