DBZ: Ultimate Blast/Tenkaichi (Pre-Release Discussion)

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

You know, I was watching this game's intro out of comparsion for both Budokai 2 and 3. I paused it to look more closely on animation (which I think is more classic style than the previous 2D intros), and base form Gohan just happened to be right there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AthTBvXi ... ata_player. Look at 0:20.

That "confirmed" that base fom Gohan is in the game.

[samuraix123]

0:21 you can see it a little better

[Rory]

I know I'm in the minority in this, but every game after Sparking Meteor feels like a letdown to me.

I'm pretty sure you're not alone there, at all.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I hope the that the what-if story will be good, not just "once upon a time a random Saiyan lived on Earth".

[Saimaroimaru]

GT characters are never that popular which is why that they are not in many games. Based on what we have seen, what rating that do you think that this game will get? I think it will likely get a 7 or 7.5 on IGN, I could see Gamespot giving this game a pretty low rating.

GT is not popular but its characters are. I think the story is hated more than the characters themselves except for Pan, who gets generally as much hate as the story.

Good for clarifying that. I know MANY hate GT for its story and not the characters and fights. This is the problem. Just because the story of the series was weak or whatever it doesn't mean that the characters don't have cool designs and attacks that are worth to be in a DB game that in my view should try to be complete. The characters themselves are important because of their uniqueness. So why should GT characters ingame suffer just because their series' story is hated? I don't get that.

Yeah I don't like the story but I like some of the characters. In BT3, Nuova Shenron was one of my staple characters. I like Majuub as well. Though Goten's design was god awful. I mean can't one of Goku's kids carry on his fighting tradition/spirit?

[MCDaveG]

I know I'm in the minority in this, but every game after Sparking Meteor feels like a letdown to me.

I'm pretty sure you're not alone there, at all.

Consider me as oldschooler. We grew up on the SNES roms, then got to PS. Well, what always improved with next console, was not only the graphics, but memory. On SNES, you got Dragon Ball fighter (and mosst of the average ones) with roster of 8 characters, so there were the most major ones, or the game came out in sequels for each major arc (Freeza, Cell, Buu).
With PS, came revolution. 3D graphics, bigger roster and all arcs at once, also major characters but from all arcs in one fighter. The idea of fighting with character from different arc with other one (Like Reecoome with Gotenks was awesome).
Then the PS2 took over. Damn it, awesome almost full roster in Budokai from Two arcs, cutscenes, helluwa lot better graphics, then Budokai 2 and Budokai 3 was pure awesomeness, with Inifite World combining the all with some changes and character omits, but awesome, GT Vegeta!! Then Budokai Tenkaichi series took from. DBZ Legends was my most favorite game on PS and Tenkaichi was like the same game, with bigger roster and improved battle mechanics and awesome graphics.....
......story short, as BT3 came, I was completely blown, bursting with fangasm and was only said that few GT characters are missing, as counting the costumes, you got almost everyone from Dragon Ball, except characters like Giran or Ranfan.

And PS3 and XBOX. As I was looking forward in the classic fashion. Man, these consoles are complete awesomeness, with games like Batman Arkham Asylum, Dead Space etc. with real looking worlds, graphics and possibilities. If I met someone in 1995 and he said, that games will look like this after some 8-12 years, my reply will be: Yeah, like in 2030 you idiot!
So I was waiting for a Dragon Ball game, that will completely blow me off after all these surprises all these years when I got better and better games.
I never was expecting, that they will start over like: Hey, here's Budokai 1. Yeah, you played it, but now it have better graphics and different brand name you know...... Hey, here is Budokai Tenkaichi, but it's f**king Blast now, it have better graphics, smaller roster.
I'm not really this defender or mega rosters 260 chara+ but when you have a f**king same gameplay + some things you enjoyed and they took them away..... Well, since XBOX 360 era, everytime I popped in the disc with DB game, I really enjoyed the graphics and playing for few hours..... than came back only in depths of biggest boredom or that I already finished all my new games.
Last time I was really enjoying RB2. Know why? Because of brand new characters and Hatchihyakku the most. He was the only fresh character for me and still one of my favorites. Galaxy Mode was pretty fresh and awesome but...... until I unlocked everything and only thing left were the pictures. Well, gameplay same as BT, every character works at same mechanics and as award I will get a still from the TV show I've already seen in motion and as pics on the internet about 10 years ago??? Well, f**k you and turn OFF......
So I thought the Ultimate Blast will be Ultimate dammit!!!

If you survived reading this, you're aspiring as Chuck Norris' succesor.

[Rukura]

You know, I was watching this game's intro out of comparsion for both Budokai 2 and 3. I paused it to look more closely on animation (which I think is more classic style than the previous 2D intros), and base form Gohan just happened to be right there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AthTBvXi ... ata_player. Look at 0:20.

That "confirmed" that base fom Gohan is in the game.

Wait...is that Cha-La in the opening...in France? That's freaking amazing!!! Is there anything hinting at the possibility of having the background music as well in the game?

[LeprikanGT]

Any word on the collectors edition being released in the US? [Best buy, gamestop, etc]

[cloud1414]

Well its like the trailer from the TGS, it showed goten and trunks. It even showed mr satan. now how could you have them in the cut scenes but not in the game? It doesn't make sense to me at all. Another reason why I think the roster is false.

[DarkGokuZ]

How much I would like that to be true, just because they are in a cutscene, doesn't mean they are in the game.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well its like the trailer from the TGS, it showed goten and trunks. It even showed mr satan. now how could you have them in the cut scenes but not in the game? It doesn't make sense to me at all. Another reason why I think the roster is false.

So, if Bulma or Oolong appear in a cutscene, they should be playable?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

We have Gotenks but no Goten or Trunks? We have super saiyan 4 Gogeta but no super saiyan 4 Goku or Vegeta? It just doesn't add up.

Almost all previous games besides the Budokai, Sparking and Raging Blast games had Gotenks without Goten and Trunks, and didn't have the Fusion feature.
EDIT: Sorry for double posting, but I'm writing from PSP browser...

[Saimaroimaru]

Well its like the trailer from the TGS, it showed goten and trunks. It even showed mr satan. now how could you have them in the cut scenes but not in the game? It doesn't make sense to me at all. Another reason why I think the roster is false.

I will just wait till the game comes out. Its like the Slug fiasco where one rep claimed we were getting him but that turned out to be false. People are so needy for info that anyone with a facebook account is apparently a rep or in the know how apparently.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Though Goten's design was god awful. I mean can't one of Goku's kids carry on his fighting tradition/spirit?

Which is, in my opinion, what GT should have been about. Goten specifically, sure, but also the passing of the torch to him and various other non-Goku entities.

Instead they ruined my beloved Son Goten. Oh, well. Fuck GT.


~Da Lemmy

[Titan]

GT characters are never that popular which is why that they are not in many games. Based on what we have seen, what rating that do you think that this game will get? I think it will likely get a 7 or 7.5 on IGN, I could see Gamespot giving this game a pretty low rating.

GT is not popular but its characters are. I think the story is hated more than the characters themselves except for Pan, who gets generally as much hate as the story.

Precisely!

DBGT storyline is horrible,but the characters are awesome and very popular.
Super 17 is my favourite character and easily way better than the regular A-17.

Rilldo is great and powerful.

Uub is wonderful and Toriyama wanted to make him the main character.I love Uub.

Ledgic is also very interesting and personally i find ssj4 more creative than ssj2 or 3.
Furthermore,they never made a DBGT game for PS2 let alone PS3,therefore we can only use them in a DBZ game.

Vegeta Baby is also awesome.

There is no reason to let these characters out of the game.

[JulieYBM]

GT Goten is hilarious, cute, and badass. The only crime here is that he hasn't been seen since!

[Captain Awesome]

Consider me as oldschooler. We grew up on the SNES roms

I think the "oldschoolers" actually owned the console and the games.

[MCDaveG]

There wasn't SNES in CZ, only some bootleg NESes from Vietnamese and Chinese sellers and then came PS1 and N64 finally in 1995.... Only the old game boys were avalaible widely before.
So I have an alibi Playing simultaneously PS1 and nes and snes roms on PC (400 mhz, don't ask me for RAM ).
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The GT for sure don't have a strong storyline, but I love the Bebi design and his forms (exluding the ape) and Super 17 and Yi Shenlong are superb.
I didn't like other characters much, as they were revamped designs we seen before (Yeah, S17 is actually upgraded 17, Bebi is upgraded Buu with more mechanical features, not mention when he's in Vegeta, there he's mostly pallete swap of Z one with Bebi features on face and finally in final form looks original enough, looks like the Yi Shenlong is the only most original design ).
And I would like to have GT Vegeta, don't care if it will be as costume, as he's only in Infinite World.

[InfernalVegito]

Great to see that most of us can agree on the fact that most of the GT characters are indeed badass in their design and abilities. Therefore I think they should definitely be in a DB game no matter what people tend to think about the series' story.
For me Yixinglong was the first villain that even I, the audience, feared. They way he was unpredictable and truly malevolent made him my favorite villain of all DB series.

[MCDaveG]

Yeah, I really loved his attack Dragon Thunder in BT3, how he impaled some characters on his spikes as they were a little bigger or differently positioned, like he did to Vegeta in GT.
Or his Dabura like blast-face in the series. Yeah, I think he was the pure evil villain in the same fashion as Freeza and Piccolo Daimao were.
I also think the besides the Super 17, DB hunt and the Dragons before, the GT had a lot darker tone than the Z had. Also Yi Shenlong was the first character, who wanted willingly to destroy the Earth only because. Cell wanted to destroy planets one by one to challenge the strongest in universe, Buu did it to destroy Goku and Vegeta...... Yi Shenlong wanted to destroy universe as his prime will and didn't care about anything.
That was the most menacing fight in the whole series for me, when I saw it in the run on TV.