GT Kid Goku = GT Adult Goku?

[Shineman]

Did GT Goku ever get weaker when turning into a kid? Or still have the same powers/strength/etc? Or weaker due to having less stamina than Adult Goku?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Super Saiyan 1
*Blah*
Son Goku
In this form, he fought with Redic, General Rild, Super Baby, and others!! His body’s strength doesn’t seem to be any different than when he was an adult, but apparently his small body has diminished his stamina.

Perfect Files say his Super Saiyan form isn't weaker than when he was an adult and that only his stamina has diminished, so that should transition to all the other forms as well with them being multipliers...

[Herms]

GT Perfect Files Vol.1 says that the brains behind GT made Goku a kid again for the series because they felt he had become too strong by the end of Z, so they handicapped him by turning him back into a kid and also making him unable to Teleport. Still, the book's section on Super Saiyans describes Super Saiyan Goku as being physically as strong as when he was an adult, but with reduced stamina. I think the "less stamina" thing comes up in the series when Super Saiyan 3 Goku fights Baby.

[SylentEcho]

GT Perfect Files Vol.1 says that the brains behind GT made Goku a kid again for the series because they felt he had become too strong by the end of Z, so they handicapped him by turning him back into a kid and also making him unable to Teleport. Still, the book's section on Super Saiyans describes Super Saiyan Goku as being physically as strong as when he was an adult, but with reduced stamina. I think the "less stamina" thing comes up in the series when Super Saiyan 3 Goku fights Baby.

Sounds like a pretty logical decision and a good one too. It's just that they pulled it off so poorly.

By the way Herms, are you planning on making a few scanlations of your Japanese DB related magazines or special books for Kanzentai? I don't mean the whole things of course, but a few interesting parts.

[SSJ3_Gogeta]

I believe that GT Goku doesn't lose any power when reverted into a kid. Of course, he does have trouble holding onto SSJ3 as a kid.

[lash]

GT Perfect Files Vol.1 says that the brains behind GT made Goku a kid again for the series because they felt he had become too strong by the end of Z, so they handicapped him by turning him back into a kid and also making him unable to Teleport.

Sounds more like Goku's potential for power improvement as a child in comparison to him with an adult body is what's being decreased(Which actually makes more sense if you ask me. Also stops contradicting the SSJ entry.) as opposed to just his actual raw battle power decreasing. Well, at least according to my interpretation of Rachel's translation...

Q: Why did Gokuu become a child!?

A: You know that the anime "Dragon Ball" series had the concept of "We'll depict the process and growth of Gokuu getting stronger," right? However, the Gokuu who had defeated the ultimately strong Majin Boo in "Z" was, to speak conversely, "Getting too strong." For that reason, it was very difficult to depict growth as an adult. Therefore, he was reverted to a child, and made to bear a handicap of being unable to use Shunkan Idou. However, even if he's smaller, Gokuu is Gokuu. Since he defeated the ultimately strong Baby, he was strong after all!!

[NeoKING]

By the way Herms, are you planning on making a few scanlations of your Japanese DB related magazines or special books for Kanzentai? I don't mean the whole things of course, but a few interesting parts.

GT Perfect Files Vol. 2, maybe?

PWWWETTY PLZZZZZZZZ.

[Gotham22]

GT Perfect Files Vol.1 says that the brains behind GT made Goku a kid again for the series because they felt he had become too strong by the end of Z, so they handicapped him by turning him back into a kid and also making him unable to Teleport. Still, the book's section on Super Saiyans describes Super Saiyan Goku as being physically as strong as when he was an adult, but with reduced stamina. I think the "less stamina" thing comes up in the series when Super Saiyan 3 Goku fights Baby.

Sounds like a pretty logical decision and a good one too. It's just that they pulled it off so poorly.

By the way Herms, are you planning on making a few scanlations of your Japanese DB related magazines or special books for Kanzentai? I don't mean the whole things of course, but a few interesting parts.

By making the villains too powerful and making the villains getting away with it a lot.

[Herms]

Therefore, he was reverted to a child[/u], and made to bear a handicap of being unable to use Shunkan Idou.

I do somewhat dispute TripleRach's wording here, since in Japanese there's a も/"also" after the "can't Teleport" part that makes it sound like both it and making him a child were the handicaps. Ie "So he was saddled with the handicap of being turned back into a child and also being unable to Teleport".

By the way Herms, are you planning on making a few scanlations of your Japanese DB related magazines or special books for Kanzentai? I don't mean the whole things of course, but a few interesting parts.

Hujio's the one with the scanner, so you'd have to ask him.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Is it just me who thinks reverting Son Goku back to a child was a cop-out? I mean, I think they probably knew that the series had long run its course by then, the characters were getting old, and they'd already gotten so ridiculously strong that to introduce even stronger enemies would just be overflowing the bucket.

However, they also knew that another series would be a guaranteed money-maker, and one of, if not the primary reason was the guy who'd been the main character throughout the series, even after his sons had been built up, then dumped as the succeeding main heroes - Goku. So they just went, "Fuck it, we'll make him a kid again, and he doesn't have as much stamina and can't teleport anymore, but he and his opponents are still as ridiculously strong as before. Brilliant!"

I don't want to start another rant about GT, but I can understand why some people were unhappy with the decision of reverting Goku back into a child, or just the idea of a series after DB/Z in the first place.

[lash]

I do somewhat dispute TripleRach's wording here, since in Japanese there's a も/"also" after the "can't Teleport" part that makes it sound like both it and making him a child were the handicaps. Ie "So he was saddled with the handicap of being turned back into a child and also being unable to Teleport".

Yeah, perhaps. One could then reason them turning Goku into a child as a handicap was due to a weakening in stamina and not necessarily battle power. ...Assuming the rest of Rachel's wording is on point.

[Furu]

Is it just me who thinks reverting Son Goku back to a child was a cop-out? I mean, I think they probably knew that the series had long run its course by then, the characters were getting old, and they'd already gotten so ridiculously strong that to introduce even stronger enemies would just be overflowing the bucket.

No, I feel it was most definitely a cop-out too, and Super Saiyan 4 was them trying to cop out of their cop out.

I mean the whole no teleporting thing doesn't even make any sense except as a clumsy way to force the use of the spaceship.

[Dabooyaka]

Goku ended using IT anyway once he reached Ssj4, so whats the point in taking it away, just to give it back.