Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by funrush » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:35 pm

Toriyama-sama wrote:You guys are acting as if this wasn't to be expected in the first place... Don't you see this is just FUNimation's perfect excuse to re-release the series yet again in the near future? :roll: :wink: :lol:
No, Funimation are money grabbers, but I don't think they'd do something like this. If so, then I've lost a lot of respect for them, even after I emailed them and they explicitly said that the sets would have Kikuchi. I really hope all that happened is that they just screwed up.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by penguintruth » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:37 pm

It's a good thing I like BOTH scores.
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Post by funrush » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:55 pm

Same. I prefer Kikuchi, but Yamamoto isn't bad. What's pissing me off though is that there will be no consistency, half is Yamamoto and half is Kikuchi. We'll never see a full Yamamoto release, so just give us Kikuchi.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by MoltenMan » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:21 pm

Seems really odd to go through a punch of legal rigamarole to have Kikuchi listed in the credits on the packaging, this that, and the other, and then intentionally master the wrong music on the discs.

If this doesn't have any real resolve or explanation soon, I'm going to sell this current set, then order the Wal-Mart sets. I think they look nicer anyway. XD

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Post by thedarkuniter » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:40 pm

penguintruth wrote:It's a good thing I like BOTH scores.
Same, at first I didn't Yamamoto's score that much for Kai but I later got the soundtrack and it has grown a lot on me.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by Gotham22 » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:51 pm

If no Yamamoto score in future Kai releases than FUNimation needs to negotiate with Toei of using more Kikuchi music. Kai is so hard to watch with the same pieces over and over. It's like Toei chosse 5 tracks to use for the replacement score.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:00 pm

Hmm. Apparently these discs are just the "part" sets burned onto "season" labeled discs. When I put this into my PS3, the disc info and icon still read "DragonBall Z Kai Part 1".

Is this how the One Piece "season" line was done as well?

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:12 pm

coola wrote:I actually feel sorry for Amazon/Rightstuf, and rest of shops, what will they tell to their customers? Seriously, what a mess.
I don't think it was ever advertised by retailers that this set would have the replacement score, it was just "confirmed" by FUNi...so, the retailers will say "Enjoy your set, which is exactly as we advertised it, and thanks for shopping with us." :P
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:12 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Hmm. Apparently these discs are just the "part" sets burned onto "season" labeled discs. When I put this into my PS3, the disc info and icon still read "DragonBall Z Kai Part 1".

Is this how the One Piece "season" line was done as well?
That's also how the Yu Yu Hakusho season sets were done as well. They just took the 7-episode discs released from 2006-2007 and compiled them into new packaging.
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Post by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:54 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Is this how the One Piece "season" line was done as well?
I just spot-checked my copy of One Piece Collection 1.

Right away I could tell it's just a re-print. A trailer for DBZ Remastered season 5.

They would of been advertising the Dragon Boxes or Z Kai, not those things. :lol:

And the menu says "Season One First Voyage Disc One".
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:18 am

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Is this how the One Piece "season" line was done as well?
I just spot-checked my copy of One Piece Collection 1.

Right away I could tell it's just a re-print. A trailer for DBZ Remastered season 5.

They would of been advertising the Dragon Boxes or Z Kai, not those things. :lol:

And the menu says "Season One First Voyage Disc One".
Hmm. So if this is standard practice for these bargain sets, maybe we'll have to wait for the next line of DBZK DVD\Blu-rays for the replacement music.

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Post by Mewzard » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:49 am

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:
SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Is this how the One Piece "season" line was done as well?
I just spot-checked my copy of One Piece Collection 1.

Right away I could tell it's just a re-print. A trailer for DBZ Remastered season 5.

They would of been advertising the Dragon Boxes or Z Kai, not those things. :lol:

And the menu says "Season One First Voyage Disc One".
Hmm. So if this is standard practice for these bargain sets, maybe we'll have to wait for the next line of DBZK DVD\Blu-rays for the replacement music.
When I bought the YYH Season Sets (4 sets), they were just the previous sets (8 sets) stuck together. Outside of changing the disc cover, exactly the same.

When you're getting a lot of episodes for cheap, you usually don't question it, unless it messes with expectations.
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Post by superrayman3 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:52 am

So season 1 is just a reprint of the part 1&2 wal-mart bundle with all dvd/blu-ray content unchanged and new packaging huh? That was probably not one of Funi's smartest moves I bet Funimation's going to have a lot of explaining to do when Toei finds out.
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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:28 pm

superrayman3 wrote:So season 1 is just a reprint of the part 1&2 wal-mart bundle with all dvd/blu-ray content unchanged and new packaging huh? That was probably not one of Funi's smartest moves I bet Funimation's going to have a lot of explaining to do when Toei finds out.
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<Toei> Who the hell is Chuck? And why did he say that?
<FUNi> Dude who vacuums the lobby after hours. He thought 'Kikuchi' was one of the attacks from the series.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by penguintruth » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:52 pm

Chuck Huber is a janitor now?
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:27 pm

penguintruth wrote:Chuck Huber is a janitor now?
Nah, but Zarbon's girlfriend is. ;p
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Post by Gozar » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:07 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
coola wrote:I actually feel sorry for Amazon/Rightstuf, and rest of shops, what will they tell to their customers? Seriously, what a mess.
I don't think it was ever advertised by retailers that this set would have the replacement score, it was just "confirmed" by FUNi...so, the retailers will say "Enjoy your set, which is exactly as we advertised it, and thanks for shopping with us." :P
But the buyer has the proof of Kikuchi's name on the back as a defense for the set not being what it's supposed to be.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:47 pm

Gozar wrote:But the buyer has the proof of Kikuchi's name on the back as a defense for the set not being what it's supposed to be.
It also says 'Original Japanese Score,' which directly contradicts the Kikuchi mention. And since that part is bigger type, it wins. ;p

Edit: Plus, if memory serves, the original singles for DBZ had "Contains Brief Nudity" or something on every single volume, whether it had it or not...so, FUNi not being 100% accurate on their packaging? Not a new thing.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:30 am

So, lemmie get this straight...

The first few Z Kai "part" sets (as distributed by FUNimation) had the Yamamoto score. This was all well and good, until Toei started replacing the on-air Japanese broadcast with Kikuchi.

Once Z Kai part 4 (or 5, I honestly don't remember) came around, Yamamoto was replaced with Kikuchi there, too.

If I were to buy these "season" sets, I'd have half the series with Yamamoto, and half with Kikuchi.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Discussion

Post by Gozar » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:32 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Gozar wrote:But the buyer has the proof of Kikuchi's name on the back as a defense for the set not being what it's supposed to be.
It also says 'Original Japanese Score,' which directly contradicts the Kikuchi mention. And since that part is bigger type, it wins. ;p
But couldn't one argue that the mention of Kikuchi and "Original Japanese Score" could lead someone to believe it means the Original Z score?

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