HD Remakes of DBZ Games

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Kendamu » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:24 am

Eddie wrote:The one thing that might work would be something along the lines of a Super Butoden HD Remix. It would probably appeal to a larger audience, what with the game never having a legal English version. As a lower budget PSN/Live Arcade game, it would also be less risky for Namco Bandai.
That was something I was thinking of as well! Maybe clean up the mechanics a bit, re-animate the sprites and stuff... It'd be like Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix, but with DBZ! It could be released as cheap downloadable content for Wii U, PS3, and Xbox 360.

I'd definitely like to see that. Maybe instead of a direct port of one game, though, it could be sort of a mash-up of all the best stuff from all three of the Super Butouden games and Ultimate Battle 22. Sure, Hyper Dimension is sort of left in the dust, but that sort of thing happens sometimes.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by mysticboy » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:16 am

I was thinking of them doing something like this (if it happened):
2012: Budokai 1-3/Budokai HD Collection. $45/$15 each.
2013: Shin Budokai 1 & 2, IW, and Evolution/Budokai HD Collection 2. $45/$15 for IW or $10 each for PSP titles.
2014: Tenkaichi 1-3 and TTT/Tenkaichi HD Collection. $55. $15 for BTs and $10 for TTT.

Give them all online and there's somewhat of a 3 year break . Imagine TTT with right stick functionality o_0

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:17 am

There's really no reason to bundle so many similar games together. If I were in charge I'd release these:

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection:
Budokai 3 - Budokai Tenkaichi 3

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection 2:
Super Dragon Ball Z - Infinite World

The first collection would contain the 2 most popular iterations of those styles, while the second will go for games that were traditionally neglected.
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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by mysticboy » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:21 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:There's really no reason to bundle so many similar games together. If I were in charge I'd release these:

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection:
Budokai 3 - Budokai Tenkaichi 3

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection 2:
Super Dragon Ball Z - Infinite World

The first collection would contain the 2 most popular iterations of those styles, while the second will go for games that were traditionally neglected.
I guess that would be better. But, I would still like to see the PSP titles (SB2, Evolution, and TTT) get HD ports.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by mikezilla2 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:45 am

BT2 is probably the only one worth having that being said they would need to bundle them all together to prompt me to re buy them.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:27 pm

mysticboy wrote:
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:There's really no reason to bundle so many similar games together. If I were in charge I'd release these:

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection:
Budokai 3 - Budokai Tenkaichi 3

Dragon Ball Z HD Collection 2:
Super Dragon Ball Z - Infinite World

The first collection would contain the 2 most popular iterations of those styles, while the second will go for games that were traditionally neglected.
I guess that would be better. But, I would still like to see the PSP titles (SB2, Evolution, and TTT) get HD ports.
There's really little reason to port the PSP games.
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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by mckeg » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:49 am

If you have a decent computer, you can run the older ps2 and gamecube/wii titles in 1080p.

Use PCSX2 for playstation2 and Dolphin for gamecube/wii. Results can be ok to very very impressive.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by mysticboy » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:03 am

mckeg wrote:If you have a decent computer, you can run the older ps2 and gamecube/wii titles in 1080p.

Use PCSX2 for playstation2 and Dolphin for gamecube/wii. Results can be ok to very very impressive.
Not too many people have a powerful enough PC for that.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Vegeta Jr » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:13 pm

All they need to do is remake Infinite World with Burst Limit graphics; add in the omiited B3 characters, Tournament mode, Story Mode, Beam struggles and make it so every single Ultimate has the minigame instead of just the B3 characters (with a deflect/block/counter option), edit the minigame missions so they control like Tenkaichi and add Online.

Instant best DBZ game, they wouldn't ever have to make another.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Ringworm128 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:31 pm

What about a HD 16-bit remaster of the old 8-bit Famicom games?

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Rukura » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:25 am

What i would REALLY want: Hyper Dimension for ps3 and psp with online.

What would be awesome: Release all the old games translated. This missed an oportunity for that with Dragon Ball DS 2(?) that came with that old Famicom game.
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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Vashkey » Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:05 am

Taku128 wrote:DBZ games don't have the kind of audience to support HD ports of old games to new consoles. It's not a giant game franchise like Metal Gear Solid or Prince of Persia that can pull the kind of numbers to make HD ports make sense, especially considering recent DBZ game sales.
Actually, Prince of Persia doesn't really seem all that big anymore. The 2008 reboot wasn't successful enough to get a sequel and the game that was simultaneously released with the movie fared even worse. I'd say Dragon Ball at the point is probably in no worse shape than Prince of Persia. Probably better, actually.

But yeah, I just don't see Namco really putting the effort in it anyway. Personally I'd be all over an HD rerelease of Budokai 3.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Vashkey » Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:30 am

Taku128 wrote:
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:
Taku128 wrote:DBZ games don't have the kind of audience to support HD ports of old games to new consoles. It's not a giant game franchise like Metal Gear Solid or Prince of Persia that can pull the kind of numbers to make HD ports make sense, especially considering recent DBZ game sales.
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Shadow of the Colossus sold over a million copies, and including Ico makes sense both to give the rerelease more appeal since most people haven't played it and because one game for $40 doesn't make sense in most territories (hence the two HD ports are being bundled together everywhere except Japan). The most recent game in that "series" sold well, so there's an audience for a rerelease, as well as a new audience for Ico that wasn't there before. DBZ games on the other hand used to sell well but haven't for almost five years in a row at this point, so there's not an audience for a DBZ Collection, plus they already make one DBZ game every year, so there's no in-between year they can release an HD Collection like there is for other HD Collections.
Actually, Shadow of the Colossus did not sell a million, or if it ever did Sony never announced it, which would be unlikely. It managed to become a greatest hits, yes, but a game does not need to sell a million units to become a greatest hits.

Dragon Ball Z games may not sell as well as they used to but I'm pretty sure they're at least still selling a few hundred thousand units yearly worldwide. Theres still an audience for Dragon Ball games. Probably comparable or possibly more than the Team ICO collection. But the venture would probably be less profitable to Namco then the Team ICO collection is to Sony. There are probably more licensing issues involved with Dragon Ball, and Sony doesn't have to pay any royalties or anything to release a game on their own platform.

As for placement of release... I think thats a series to series type thing. There certainly isn't any rule against releasing ports/remakes/collections in the same year as another game. It really comes down to if the demand is there. Will Dragon Ball fans be willing to buy more than one game in a year and do they want a collection.

Porting some of the last gen Dragon Ball games would be cheaper than developing new games, but it'd probably be harder to market them, and thats probably the biggest reason they probably wont happen. What good is cheap development if you can't convince people to buy it.? That's the biggest hurdle.

From my experience though Namco doesn't even appear to really strategically think about this stuff much. Personally, I'd do some things different if I were them. The marketing, at least here in the states could just be handled better. Making more accessible games would also be a good start. This is an anime game. Publishers really need to acknowledge their fanbase now a day, it's practically a requirement now.

But I'm getting off track. Point is, I guess it may be possible that a Dragon Ball game collection could be released and might even be profitable, but I don't think Namco Bandai is the company that would be able to figure out how to make it work, let alone even consider the idea.

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:58 pm

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:
Xane wrote:Super Butoden 2 HD Remix = Love.
Then I could finally play the damn game! :lol:

Would be interesting, with added online I'd could justify a download at the right price, but anime games indeed don't have the audience to merit it, and more importantly, aren't allowed to compete with themselves within their own franchise.
I personally would like just one Butouden released that had the characters from all 3 games, or heck a modern 3D RPG remake of Super Saiya Densetsu would be awesome!

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by mysticboy » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:43 am

I'd hate to bump this thread again, but I felt the need to post these here:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxTWDB-CYE

Now, neither the PS3 nor the 360 can get anti-aliasing that high, but both can go to at least 4x-8x (PCs can go to 32x).

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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Saiga » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:53 am

I recently rebought Budokai 3 for Ps2 and I am loving it despite how old it is, I would get it from the PSN as soon as it was released if it were. I'm sure I'd love to get a HD remake of the first Budokai as I think they handled a few gameplay aspects better (I hated hyper mode, I wanted to just combo for my ultimates instead).

I don't think IW even got released in Australia, so I'd love a chance to snap that up and give it a try. I suppose I'd also get BT3 for the sheer fanservice.

I really, really hope they do put the games on the PSN network, hell I'd get them even if they weren't HD remakes.
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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:21 pm

Like I've said elsewhere, if the game has Kenji Yamamoto near it, never expect to see it again.
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Re: HD Remakes of DBZ Games

Post by DonieZ » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:11 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Like I've said elsewhere, if the game has Kenji Yamamoto near it, never expect to see it again.

Haha, that's right. I wonder if that means I'd be able to find a SB somewhere..

I re-bought B3 earlier this year, but I didn't like it as much as Saiga here. It seemed outdated for me; I don't know, but I think if I could get my hands on an IW then I'd be happy. Never got a chance to try it out.

Still, that idea of just re-releasing games for a couple years is exactly not what I want to happen. A DBZ game which truly captures DBZ still hasn't been developed in my eyes. I'd find it a real shame if 4 or so years were just wasted like that. And there's no gaurantee that they'd sell.

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