DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

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Post by Mewzard » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:15 pm

AgitoZ wrote: I don't think you quite get what I mean when I say subtle. The performance is subtle because it contrasts with the character so greatly. It's like Horikawa's performance of Vegeta. You'd think he'd have this angry, over the top performance, but instead has this smooth performance with contrasts greatly with his actions.

I guess you all just expect that the character has to be spelled out to you through the performance.

As for the TV broadcast, Rager still sounds magnificent.
Horikawa's performance doesn't contrast Vegeta. Vegeta has times when he's smug and calm, which is covered in both sub and Kai's dub. And yet other times, he loses his shit, and that's also covered in both versions.

I don't expect everything to be spelled out, but I do expect emotions and character traits to be portrayed properly. Those are different aspects of the characters, and they're all represented fully in both versions.

Yusuke's dub work portrayed his character properly. When he gets angry, upset, happy, frustrated, or worried, it all is portrayed right. His attitude is usually prevalent in the work for a reason though, he's a street punk. He may help his friends, but he's always glad to pick a fight and loves to do so. He gives lip to authority, is quick to anger, and this shows. Half the time he wants to be sad, he gets mad at the situation. Yet, when the time does come, the attitude does lighten up, and he sounds more calm (even if he's bottling up some emotions, which can be just slightly heard in the tone of the voice).

But that's enough on that.

It's only a few more days until the Cell Games begin, and we can see how voices new and old hold up together in this classic story. Knowing the outcome doesn't lessen my excitement, it only makes me more excited to see the changes.
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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:24 pm

Mewzard wrote: It's only a few more days until the Cell Games begin, and we can see how voices new and old hold up together in this classic story. Knowing the outcome doesn't lessen my excitement, it only makes me more excited to see the changes.
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Post by AgitoZ » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:42 pm

Mewzard wrote:And yet other times, he loses his shit, and that's also covered in both versions.
Horikawa doesn't sound like he's about to lose his voice when he does.
Mewzard wrote:Yusuke's dub work portrayed his character properly.
I hope you're not suggesting the original portrayed him improperly.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:10 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2eVkDlRbx4

Clips like this are making me love Dameon Clarke's Cell even more, I love the whole douchebag/sarcasm tone behind Cell in this, or Kai in general.
It feels like how I am when I'm being sarcastic.

So, why didn't they do this the first time around?


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Post by Gonstead » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:19 am

Dameon Clarke actually sounds like he's having fun with the role now that's he's back.
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Post by penguintruth » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:04 pm

Wow, Pizza has the most annoying voice ever.
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Post by dbzkfan543 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:33 pm

^Agreed. Kuririn sounded a bit off to me today, but Clarke's and Schemmel's performances were absolutely breathtaking! Hercule sounded great too! The SPLAT word bubble made me laugh. Ah, Nicktoons and your insistence on translation of Japanese text....

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:47 pm

penguintruth wrote:Wow, Pizza has the most annoying voice ever.
Is it still Linda Young or someone else? From the network preview I can confirm that Kyle Hebert is still Poroshki and John Burgmeier is still Caroni.
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Post by KaiserNeko » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:52 pm

penguintruth wrote:Wow, Pizza has the most annoying voice ever.
I'm actually a fan of that voice for her because Pizza herself is an annoying, absolutely awful character. So, it fits.
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Post by penguintruth » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:55 pm

That's a good point. But this is a bit much, even for that. I shouldn't cringe watching my favorite arc.
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Post by xXInfinite026Xx » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:38 pm

Am I the only one who got a laugh at John Burgmeier as Caroni still yelling out his "attack" in the same rock/opera-esque manner as he did in the original DBZ dub? I thought that was absolutely priceless! XD
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Post by funrush » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:13 pm

In cart D go to 6:27.
"ROOFING TILES! That's right, tiles for roofing!"

Also, Linda Young was the one playing Piiza.

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Post by Codarik » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:28 pm

Well I'm glad Linda Young is still Pizza. After losing a character she cared a lot about, it was only right to bring her back for another role she had.

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:31 pm

dbzkfan543 wrote: Ah, Nicktoons and your insistence on translation of Japanese text....
What is wrong with that?

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Post by spaceace998 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:15 pm

Hey, guys. I've been catching up on the Cell episodes, and I'm up to number 83. I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me out here. I'm trying to understand the newscaster's line after Cell blasts through the floor. It's at 16:46 of the full episode video, provided below.

Also, at 17:55, I'm having trouble understanding one word of Cell's line: "...to be held in a vacant lot ____ 15 miles to the northwest of this station." Thanks a lot in advance!

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Post by funrush » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:33 pm

I can't tell what they're saying in both of those scenes you requested.

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Post by Daisetsu » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:40 pm

I can't tell on the first one but the second sounds like "to be held in a vacant lot by fif-fifteen miles to the northwest of this station."

Seems like a screw up of Clarke's that was left in, if that's what it is.

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Post by El Diabeetus » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:16 am

I heard "about" fifteen miles from the northwest of this station. But, the TV in the show cuts off a little bit, so maybe that was intentional.

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Post by Puto » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:20 pm

You guys noticed the description on the NT site yet?

"The tournament is about to begin, and hulking human with a devilish name is slated to be the first challenger! Can the arrogant champion make good on his boasts, or will Cell teach him the meaning of the word pain?"

"Devilish" name, huh? I have a feeling the people writing the description were watching the uncut version...

EDIT: Is it just me or did Cell just say "as is the shit you're in?" Nope, it's shape.

Also, episode 88's up. http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-a.html http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-c.html http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-d.html - With a scene right out of head-cha-la, too.
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