Best english adaptation for Kintoun and Makankosappo

[songohan619]

Could Demon Spiral be a good translation / Adaption of Makankosappo?

[Herms]

Makankosappo is made up of five kanji: "demon/devil/magic", "pierce/penetrate", "light", "kill", and "cannon". There's really no "spiral" in there.

[songohan619]

Makankosappo is made up of five kanji: "demon/devil/magic", "pierce/penetrate", "light", "kill", and "cannon". There's really no "spiral" in there.

Crap, my bad.
Could Demon Canon work?
And also, could Muscle cloud work as a transalation for kintoun?

[Herms]

Could Demon Canon work?

I suppose...but it's "cannon" with two Ns. Over in another thread I just proposed "Devil Drill Death Cannon" as a somewhat loose translation. Or maybe "Devil Drill Cannon", if that's too long.

And also, could Muscle cloud work as a transalation for kintoun?

No, "Kintoun" actually means "somersault cloud". Since the word was taken directly from Chinese to Japanese, in Japanese the meaning becomes somewhat obscure.

[songohan619]

Could Demon Canon work?

I suppose...but it's "cannon" with two Ns. Over in another thread I just proposed "Devil Drill Death Cannon" as a somewhat loose translation. Or maybe "Devil Drill Cannon", if that's too long.

And also, could Muscle cloud work as a transalation for kintoun?

No, "Kintoun" actually means "somersault cloud". Since the word was taken directly from Chinese to Japanese, in Japanese the meaning becomes somewhat obscure.

Hmmmm, so what would be a good word for kintoun.
I`m asking because of this:
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... 16&t=18598

[sangofe]

If you're gonna make a fandub, why translate these things?

[songohan619]

If you're gonna make a fandub, why translate these things?

Because that is how i want my dub to be.

[dbboxkaifan]

You could just use the original terms to be closer to the original script, but the fandub's your idea so you're the one who makes the decisions.

I do wonder if it'll get anywhere.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I'll preface everything I'm about to say with this: in the end, I believe all attacks should just be pronounced literally, as they were in the original Japanese version. Not translated. Having said, that, in thinking about how best to make an English translation, I'd almost think that the translations would have to be different according to the medium. For example, a literal translation of Makankossapo could probably work in the manga. In the anime? Nope. You have lip flaps to worry about, and there's no freaking way that a literal translation would not look silly given the lip flaps it would have to fit. So, taking the issue of lip flaps into account, I suppose the best English translation would be, "Demon Light Cannon." It's a decent translation and has the same amount of syllables as Makankossapo, so it would work with the lip flaps.

[TheGreatness25]

I'd call the Makankosappo the Demon Death Cannon or Demon Light Cannon.

As for Kinto Un, I'd just call it... Kinto Cloud or something.

[Attitudefan]

Demon Death Cannon as it is more menacing. Light Canon is good but doesn't have that pzazz!

[mysticboy]

Special Beam Cannon is the best IMO.

[VegettoEX]

Special Beam Cannon is the best IMO.

What's "best" about it, though? The "special" comes from absolutely nowhere, the "beam" is a pretty big stretch from "light", and that leaves "cannon" as the only element that's accurate.

It would be like translating the Kienzan as something haphazard like "Destructo Disc".

[CaBrPi]

Demon Death Cannon as it is more menacing. Light Canon is good but doesn't have that pzazz!

I think "Demon Light Cannon" flows better, in all honestly. It rolls off the tongue a lot better than "Demon Death Cannon", in my opinion.

For accuracy, I'd go with Demon Impaling-Light Cannon, as it's not too over-the-top.

As for Kinto-un, I'd go with Somersault Cloud, as that's the literal translation, and it's also the name of the cloud that Sun Wukong, the Monkey King, and Goku's basis, uses throughout Journey to the West.

[TheBlackPaladin]

The German dub actually referred to Makankosappo as "Höllenspirale," which literally translated means "Hell Spiral." That's a cool name in my opinion, and relatively correct as a translation. I still think "Demon Light Cannon" would be better, though.

[Herms]

The German dub actually referred to Makankosappo as "Höllenspirale," which literally translated means "Hell Spiral." That's a cool name in my opinion, and relatively correct as a translation.

Eh, it bats 1/5 if you count "hell" as a loose translation of "demon". No part of Makankosappo means "spiral".

[TheBlackPaladin]

The German dub actually referred to Makankosappo as "Höllenspirale," which literally translated means "Hell Spiral." That's a cool name in my opinion, and relatively correct as a translation.

Eh, it bats 1/5 if you count "hell" as a loose translation of "demon". No part of Makankosappo means "spiral".

That's what I get for misreading your post, Julian. I thought you mentioned "spiral" as one of the words that was included. Then I went back and read you first post, and had a "d'oh!" moment. You're right then, it wouldn't be that great.

[NeoKING]

Makankosappo? I'd translate it as 'Satanic Piercing-Light Cannon.'

[El Diabeetus]

The German dub actually referred to Makankosappo as "Höllenspirale," which literally translated means "Hell Spiral." That's a cool name in my opinion, and relatively correct as a translation.

Eh, it bats 1/5 if you count "hell" as a loose translation of "demon". No part of Makankosappo means "spiral".

That's what I get for misreading your post, Julian. I thought you mentioned "spiral" as one of the words that was included. Then I went back and read you first post, and had a "d'oh!" moment. You're right then, it wouldn't be that great.

Beats "Special Beam Cannon", at least "Hell Spiral" sounds like something that attack could be called even if it's not what Makankosappo literally means from the Kanji.

If I had to adapt Makankosappo myself, I'd personally adapt it as "Demonic Death Cannon" or "Demonic Pierce Cannon" for a dub, a bit loose an adaptation; but, Demonic being from the "Ma", Death coming from the kill in "Sa" and the Cannon from "Po (Ho, technically. But, it's Po in Makankosappo's case) and the "Kan" if I went with the second adaptation.

[Saiga]

It may not be accurate, but I really like the rendition Viz did: "Light of Death".