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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:00 am

Wow, this is a complete surprise. :shock:
It looks like Kanzentai's BP guide could use another update.. and it hasn't even been 3 months since the last one!

What is up with the description of Sauza and Co's BPs?
It has weird calculations like BP52,000 x 200=1440万 or 14,400,000, which should actually be 1040万(10,400,000), since that's what you get when multiplying 52,000 by 200.
It links to the DB card game, which also has those descriptions.
There's also the description provided in the V-Jump section of the guide. When describing Goku's 180,000, 3 million is mentioned and yet again the card game is linked to, which provides a date much earlier than that of Daizenshuu 7's. So was that BP number first featured on that card or is the date provided in reference to something else?

The kiri conversion looks it was made by someone, who assumed Goku didn't increase his Super Saiyan state at all, after Namek, which is just wrong.

All in all I'm surprised the Coola BP is no longer a rumour and shocked that DBZ Budokai 3(in some gameplay guide?) was apparently the source to it and Gogeta and Broli's battle powers.
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Post by Herms » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:47 am

dbgtFO wrote:What is up with the description of Sauza and Co's BPs?
It has weird calculations like BP52,000 x 200=1440万 or 14,400,000, which should actually be 1040万(10,400,000), since that's what you get when multiplying 52,000 by 200.
It links to the DB card game, which also has those descriptions.
There's also the description provided in the V-Jump section of the guide. When describing Goku's 180,000, 3 million is mentioned and yet again the card game is linked to, which provides a date much earlier than that of Daizenshuu 7's. So was that BP number first featured on that card or is the date provided in reference to something else?
Where are you seeing this? Is it the website Fox666 linked to? Because I can't get that page to load.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Nazi Cola » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:30 pm

I love that woman wearing the scouter in the last one.
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Post by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:11 am

Herms wrote: Where are you seeing this? Is it the website Fox666 linked to? Because I can't get that page to load.
Yeah it is that site. In case the new link Fox666 provided doesn't work for you either, I'm just going to post the links to the cardgame site the website was linking to.
card 348 and 349 on the page.
card 350 on the page.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:06 am

Herms wrote:the brief year-end comic where Lunch briefly appears is mentioned.
What the hell is this?
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So, in Bardock Special, Nappa was wearing a wig?!
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by Bussani » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:22 am

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Herms wrote:the brief year-end comic where Lunch briefly appears is mentioned.
What the hell is this?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:49 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, in Bardock Special, Nappa was wearing a wig?!
...or you could just assume that "The Professor" has no idea what he is talking about and isn't some magical DB information guru.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:02 am

Bussani wrote:Image
Is this a sample? What are they saying?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:27 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Is this a sample? What are they saying?
That's the whole comic. Its just a short little extra (to show what was happening during Christmas while two titans were fighting for the fate of the universe elsewhere), similar to an omake.
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Re: Here is the official source for Coola BP of 470 million

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:09 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Is this a sample? What are they saying?
That's the whole comic. Its just a short little extra (to show what was happening during Christmas while two titans were fighting for the fate of the universe elsewhere), similar to an omake.
Are there others?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are there others?
I could be wrong, but I don't believe so.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:47 am

Fox666 wrote:Yes, there are.
I guess I walked into that one. I know Toriyama had created some extra little comics, but I really only meant ones that could actually be counted as contributing to the "canon" story. Besides the Christmas comic, the rest of those add nothing to the actual DB story, they are just for fun or answering fan questions.
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Post by hleV » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:59 am

Was Gohan's wear really green in the Saiyan arc after all? It's like a 2nd different source where it's colored that way.
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Post by lash » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:33 pm

lash wrote:
Herms wrote: The Slug scan mentions "Kaio-Ken x100", so I'm guessing that's why it was included.
Eh?
Are they saying Goku used a 100 fold Kaioken against Slug?
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