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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by AgitoZ » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:10 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:The opening for the Orange Brick Season One looks like one of the openings for the later episodes. Where as the Blu-ray has the actual opening for the Saiyan saga. Though I could be wrong.
That's cause they used the opening for the movies on the Blu-Ray. So it's not the actual opening, technically.
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:21 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:It's called a Blu-ray.
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by CyberpunkCentral » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:30 pm

AgitoZ wrote:
CyberpunkCentral wrote:The opening for the Orange Brick Season One looks like one of the openings for the later episodes. Where as the Blu-ray has the actual opening for the Saiyan saga. Though I could be wrong.
That's cause they used the opening for the movies on the Blu-Ray. So it's not the actual opening, technically.
No. It's the same opening from the early episodes on the Dragon Box actually.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by AgitoZ » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:31 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:No. It's the same opening from the early episodes on the Dragon Box actually.
No it isn't.
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by CyberpunkCentral » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:37 pm

AgitoZ wrote:
CyberpunkCentral wrote:No. It's the same opening from the early episodes on the Dragon Box actually.
No it isn't.
Yes it is. I've just seen both openings on my HDTV. The only difference is the Dragon Box have Japanese text, while the Blu-ray has none.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:38 pm

So, the openings are off again?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:43 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:
AgitoZ wrote:
CyberpunkCentral wrote:No. It's the same opening from the early episodes on the Dragon Box actually.
No it isn't.
Yes it is. I've just seen both openings on my HDTV. The only difference is the Dragon Box have Japanese text, while the Blu-ray has none.
But. It. Isn't. The footage from the opening is taken from movie 1 and is spliced with stuff from the series. The little timestamp thing that appears in the logo at the beginning is proof that the footage is from the movies.
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:10 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It's obvious FUNi isn't using the original film masters, since the title cards are in English.
That doesn't even make sense. Even their 3rd or 4th generation masters still have the Japanese title cards, they just chose not to use them. This is proof of nothing.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by CyberpunkCentral » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:15 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:But. It. Isn't. The footage from the opening is taken from movie 1 and is spliced with stuff from the series. The little timestamp thing that appears in the logo at the beginning is proof that the footage is from the movies.
What timestamp? I don't see anything. Also, the other movies have slightly different openings.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:17 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:But. It. Isn't. The footage from the opening is taken from movie 1 and is spliced with stuff from the series. The little timestamp thing that appears in the logo at the beginning is proof that the footage is from the movies.
What timestamp? I don't see anything. Also, the other movies have slightly different openings.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8670/funisdvshdbs.jpg
Look at that little thing above "HD Remastered".

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by CyberpunkCentral » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:22 pm

Okay, now I'm starting to get confused? I don't recall a timestamp on any of the Blu-ray releases?

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by dballfan » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:25 pm

Well I might put in my 1.1 just to confirm but but Kentai's blog mentions something about this:

The comparison he is referring to is the image posted above by Pokewhiz7
The restoration special also includes the following comparison between the Dragon Box and Level 1.1 - cool, right? It would be except for one little problem - it's bullshit, for a number of reasons. First off, see that little oval-shaped tag in the bottom-right hand corner hiding underneath the "HD RESTORED" box? That's an EIRIN Certificate number, which are only given to theatrical movies approved for public exhibition in Japan. So, FUNi's "Clean" OP is from an archival print of the first Dragon Ball Z movie, or 'The Dead Zone', NOT an archival print that would have been used for the TV series. Secondly, the Dragon Box footage they're using has credits laid on top of it, which in 1989 would have been optically printed onto the film, causing further analog degradation of the print. Finally, the opening/ending footage would have been animated on 35mm and then resized to 16mm after the episode titles were applied - the larger format film makes including credits easier, after all. The opening footage is, in terms of real-world resolution, the absolute worst point of comparison FUNimation could have chosen
If CyberpunkCentral is right than its a weird movie by Funi' to compare it to a restored opening which isn't even included in the level sets.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:20 pm

If the opening is the same except for the theatrical stamp there, I don't think it's a big deal.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by batistabus » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:21 pm

I don't get what the problem is. The Levels never claimed to be what the Dragon Boxes were. From what I understand, it seems that their goal was to provide the best looking version of the series available in HD with a Blu-Ray format. In my opinion, that's exactly what they did.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by CyberpunkCentral » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:30 pm

Okay. After seeing the openings for the Orange Bricks, Movies (Blu-ray), Dragon Box, and Level sets, I can officially say that the Level sets are the only sets that have the timestamp. But Movie 01 doesn't. So I don't know exactly what that proves? In the end, it really doesn't matter. It's the exact same opening from the early episodes of the Dragon Box, only without the Japanese text. That's it. No big deal.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by dballfan » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:35 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:Okay. After seeing the openings for the Orange Bricks, Movies (Blu-ray), Dragon Box, and Level sets, I can officially say that the Level sets are the only sets that have the timestamp. But Movie 01 doesn't. So I don't know exactly what that proves? In the end, it really doesn't matter. It's the exact same opening from the early episodes of the Dragon Box, only without the Japanese text. That's it. No big deal.
If thats true that its just people trying to find 'flaws' from nothing..
batistabus wrote:I don't get what the problem is. The Levels never claimed to be what the Dragon Boxes were. From what I understand, it seems that their goal was to provide the best looking version of the series available in HD with a Blu-Ray format. In my opinion, that's exactly what they did.
Precisely that.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by Puto » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:14 pm

Movie 1's original footage has that "stamp" (or more accurately, eirin mark). You can see it if you have the Dragon Box version of Movie 1, the original Pioneer single, or the UUE single (in the Japanese video track).
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by Craddle » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:16 pm

AgitoZ wrote:
CyberpunkCentral wrote:The opening for the Orange Brick Season One looks like one of the openings for the later episodes. Where as the Blu-ray has the actual opening for the Saiyan saga. Though I could be wrong.
That's cause they used the opening for the movies on the Blu-Ray. So it's not the actual opening, technically.
AgitoZ is correct.

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The restoration special also includes the following comparison between the Dragon Box and Level 1.1 - cool, right? It would be except for one little problem - it's bullshit, for a number of reasons. First off, see that little oval-shaped tag in the bottom-right hand corner hiding underneath the "HD RESTORED" box? That's an EIRIN Certificate number, which are only given to theatrical movies approved for public exhibition in Japan. So, FUNi's "Clean" OP is from an archival print of the first Dragon Ball Z movie, or 'The Dead Zone', NOT an archival print that would have been used for the TV series.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by CyberpunkCentral » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:28 pm

Craddle wrote:
AgitoZ wrote:
CyberpunkCentral wrote:The opening for the Orange Brick Season One looks like one of the openings for the later episodes. Where as the Blu-ray has the actual opening for the Saiyan saga. Though I could be wrong.
That's cause they used the opening for the movies on the Blu-Ray. So it's not the actual opening, technically.
AgitoZ is correct.

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Kentai Films wrote:Image

The restoration special also includes the following comparison between the Dragon Box and Level 1.1 - cool, right? It would be except for one little problem - it's bullshit, for a number of reasons. First off, see that little oval-shaped tag in the bottom-right hand corner hiding underneath the "HD RESTORED" box? That's an EIRIN Certificate number, which are only given to theatrical movies approved for public exhibition in Japan. So, FUNi's "Clean" OP is from an archival print of the first Dragon Ball Z movie, or 'The Dead Zone', NOT an archival print that would have been used for the TV series.
Sorry, but I've just seen the movies on Blu-ray. And there is no stamp on it.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:36 pm

Dude, like Puto just said, DBox The Movies, the UUE Single, and the Pioneer single ALL HAVE IT. The Double Feature blu-ray doesn't, because they used a different textless opening and have no alternate angles.
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