Is there anyone...

[MCDaveG]

Few of them were okay, but well, after the Buu's fury came with awesome portraits and also the LOG II International port released in Asia have them changed to better ones and I won't be surprised if they were done by the same guy who did Buu's Fury. So that striked me even more.

[DBZ Mick]

To be frank I played LOGII: International, and the some of the portraits were far from perfect. Some were worse than LOGII.

[MCDaveG]

Really? I got this one only as rom downloaded from net to see how it looks like and after the dream Gohan versus Freeza the game froze.
So I didn't saw them all.

[DBZ Mick]

I also tried out a rom a few years back and I thought the portraits were hit and miss. Some did look better while others...

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

My fav DBZ fighting game is Super DBZ, with Budokai 3 right behind it.

Honestly, I'd be happy if they actually focused on an adventure game rather than a fighting game, but an Arcade style fighting game, like MCDave mentioned, would be just fine as well.

[Saiyajin no Tatsujin]

I never got into the next gen. DB games. I was collecting Dragon Ball games before the next gen. era of the PS2 and XBOX. And I've been a big 2D fighting game for a long time now. So it goes without saying that my favorite DB games came out in the 90's, my favorites being Hyper Dimension, Super Butoden 2, Shin Butoden and DBZ2-Super Battle. It's too bad the arcade games, such as DBZ2-SB never got rereleased in a collection.

[DonieZ]

I never got into the next gen. DB games. I was collecting Dragon Ball games before the next gen. era of the PS2 and XBOX. And I've been a big 2D fighting game for a long time now. So it goes without saying that my favorite DB games came out in the 90's, my favorites being Hyper Dimension, Super Butoden 2, Shin Butoden and DBZ2-Super Battle. It's too bad the arcade games, such as DBZ2-SB never got rereleased in a collection.

Unfortunately, I wasn't from that era, so I never got try those games out. I've only heard good things about them though. I'm guessing then that you'd prefer a good 2D DB fighter this generation, huh?

[DBZ Mick]

Is there anyone that isn't satisfied with DBZ games at the moment, and havent been for awhile? Is there anyone here thats favourite game isn't BT3, and is still waiting for a 3D DBZ game which grants competitive gameplay, as much as the 2D games did? Is there anyone who wishes a day when DBZ games could be entered into tournaments, and would be at a level that they could compete with the likes of Tekken, Street Fighter and all the other renowned fighter's of this generation? Whether in 2D or in 3D? And is there anyone that wishes for the day when they can mention the next DBZ installment around a group of friends who aren't particularly interested in DBZ, and not be laughed at?

Is there anyone who doesn't care about the number of character's, or if there's a particularly long story mode, if one at all? Is there anyone who refuses to pay for mediocre titles every year, just because it has a DBZ label on it?

Say "I" and tell me why. Tell me what you want instead...

I'm no big fighting game buff but there is a site called 'Dragonball Competitive'. They discuss the Budokai games quite in-depth (even Raging Blast 2 surprisingly) but it seems to have died down in the last few years. I believe 'Evil Caps America' spearheaded the whole in-depth discussion of cancels and whatnot community since the original Budokai.

I doubt DBZ would get bigger competitive wise mainly because people are dicks with certain things such as Dragonball. Even though Budokai 3 and such do have quite a lot of depth.

[Saiyajin no Tatsujin]

I never got into the next gen. DB games. I was collecting Dragon Ball games before the next gen. era of the PS2 and XBOX. And I've been a big 2D fighting game for a long time now. So it goes without saying that my favorite DB games came out in the 90's, my favorites being Hyper Dimension, Super Butoden 2, Shin Butoden and DBZ2-Super Battle. It's too bad the arcade games, such as DBZ2-SB never got rereleased in a collection.

Unfortunately, I wasn't from that era, so I never got try those games out. I've only heard good things about them though. I'm guessing then that you'd prefer a good 2D DB fighter this generation, huh?

I would, indeed! Actually, my dream DB fighter would be something similar to the Power Stone games that came out on the Dreamcast. Bigger arenas to fight and fly around in...sharp, crisp graphics for characters and their ki attacks...hand-drawn stage backgrounds...zoom-in on close quarter action (i.e. Samurai Spirits)...stuff like that. I guess you could also call it Legends meets Power Stone.

[dario03]

How did I miss this thread???? Like really, I was looking for a thread like this a couple days ago and didn't see one

Is there anyone that isn't satisfied with DBZ games at the moment, and havent been for awhile? Is there anyone here thats favourite game isn't BT3

I actually like Budokai 3 the most and BT2 the second most. I honestly can't remember all the little reasons why I liked BT2 more than BT3 but it was just by a bit anyways.

and is still waiting for a 3D DBZ game which grants competitive gameplay, as much as the 2D games did? Is there anyone who wishes a day when DBZ games could be entered into tournaments, and would be at a level that they could compete with the likes of Tekken, Street Fighter and all the other renowned fighter's of this generation?

I would be happy with a really good game. If it gets to tournaments great but I never go to those even though I kind of always wanted to. Budokai 3 was kind of 3D and I would prefer another one of those but a 3D 3D like BT3 would be fine to if they can get it to be a skill based game.

I do like using the most DBZ'ish characters in Street Fighter Seth and Akuma pull it off decently (though they made Seth's teleport worthless for counters )

Whether in 2D or in 3D? And is there anyone that wishes for the day when they can mention the next DBZ installment around a group of friends who aren't particularly interested in DBZ, and not be laughed at?

All my close friends were into Dragonball years ago so thats not a problem. The problem is only one of them plays fighting games so he would be the only one to care (and he is gone most of the year now a days). We do play the DBZ games still but usually just for a little while and then I say "hey this game has way to many issues and/or has way to much rock,paper,scissors luck involved" and he agrees and we move on to Mortal Kombat and Smash Brothers.

Is there anyone who doesn't care about the number of character's, or if there's a particularly long story mode, if one at all? Is there anyone who refuses to pay for mediocre titles every year, just because it has a DBZ label on it?

I don't care about the number of characters to much but I want the game to succeed so they make more and having more characters would help with that. Doesn't have to be a ton though. I would say do the main main people from DBZ and GT in the first game and add the lower tier guys in later games. That way you can put all the really important people in and not stop at some random point in the story. I would say ~30 (not counting transformations) in the first game and add ~10 in follow ups.

If the story mode is going to be the usual retelling of DBZ and GT then I can do without it. I've seen it a billion times and I bet most people that play the games have, and if they haven't then they can go watch the show. What I would prefer is a new story or heck they can copy Mortal Kombat and just send a message back in time that makes it so the main stuff still happens but the route that they take to get there is different. But in any case it doesn't need to be long because I usually only play story modes once and I would rather they spend time on polishing the fighting.

Say "I" and tell me why. Tell me what you want instead...

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I would really love another Budokai game or at least something closer to Tenkaichi 2.

Personally I think they should make DBZ games like they make Call of Duty games. Have 2 developers who release a game every 2 years or so but space it out so there is a game every year. 1 year we can get a hardcore fighter with dbz and the following they can release their "oh look at the pretty flashing lights and press x to win" dbz game. That way everybody can be happy, the games make a bunch of money, and they keep making them better and better.

[DonieZ]

How did I miss this thread???? Like really, I was looking for a thread like this a couple days ago and didn't see one

I actually like Budokai 3 the most and BT2 the second most. I honestly can't remember all the little reasons why I liked BT2 more than BT3 but it was just by a bit anyways.

I would be happy with a really good game. If it gets to tournaments great but I never go to those even though I kind of always wanted to. Budokai 3 was kind of 3D and I would prefer another one of those but a 3D 3D like BT3 would be fine to if they can get it to be a skill based game.

I do like using the most DBZ'ish characters in Street Fighter Seth and Akuma pull it off decently (though they made Seth's teleport worthless for counters )

All my close friends were into Dragonball years ago so thats not a problem. The problem is only one of them plays fighting games so he would be the only one to care (and he is gone most of the year now a days). We do play the DBZ games still but usually just for a little while and then I say "hey this game has way to many issues and/or has way to much rock,paper,scissors luck involved" and he agrees and we move on to Mortal Kombat and Smash Brothers.

I don't care about the number of characters to much but I want the game to succeed so they make more and having more characters would help with that. Doesn't have to be a ton though. I would say do the main main people from DBZ and GT in the first game and add the lower tier guys in later games. That way you can put all the really important people in and not stop at some random point in the story. I would say ~30 (not counting transformations) in the first game and add ~10 in follow ups.

If the story mode is going to be the usual retelling of DBZ and GT then I can do without it. I've seen it a billion times and I bet most people that play the games have, and if they haven't then they can go watch the show. What I would prefer is a new story or heck they can copy Mortal Kombat and just send a message back in time that makes it so the main stuff still happens but the route that they take to get there is different. But in any case it doesn't need to be long because I usually only play story modes once and I would rather they spend time on polishing the fighting.

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I would really love another Budokai game or at least something closer to Tenkaichi 2.

Personally I think they should make DBZ games like they make Call of Duty games. Have 2 developers who release a game every 2 years or so but space it out so there is a game every year. 1 year we can get a hardcore fighter with dbz and the following they can release their "oh look at the pretty flashing lights and press x to win" dbz game. That way everybody can be happy, the games make a bunch of money, and they keep making them better and better.

I no longer remember which DB game I liked the most, however my personal favourite of all time was and is Budokai 2; much love for my first Home Console DB title.
As for the rest of the DB games, I can't really remember much of playing them, honestly. The only one I can still genuinely remember is B2, mainly probably because of the board game style and stuff; quite memorable. Onwards though my memory is quite a lot more limited, maybe because they became more and more generic as time drew on. I no longer own any of the 5 titles, B2 to T3, I had on the PS3; they've either been lost, broken or borrowed and never returned.

I wouldn't really enter into competitions or anything, I'd just be content with knowing that the game is good enough if ever one wanted to it could be played on such levels; It's "name" or reputation is what I'm getting at here. And I know there are some people who'd love it being competition level too.
It's been proven that it isn't impossible to make a 3D game with unique character's and take skill. Look at Dissiddia. I'd love something like that, but not like that. As in a DBZ version, pumped out version.

Reason I say number of character's aren't important, is because people expect 50 in the first game. It's sorta foolish and naive. As you said 30 character's (tops) for the first game with all the mains all created completely uniquely and creatively would be good. The reason I say lower characters is because with less they can essentially do more, as in do more with them. As someone once said, it isn't the engine which makes a game necessarily good, it's the way the individual character's are made which does so. Each character must be different, and like it or not it isn't possible for hundreds when there's only a year of development.

In sequels though they should add and add, ofcourse. Each character though should be made each with it's own love and attention.

I think the same story has to be done away with, it's bland. One of the main things about the mode though, as someone on here said (maybe Ruruka), is that they "tell" it the same or, crap, way. What I appreciate about Dimps is that in their Budokai era, they told the story each time quite very different. First old school cutscenes, second board kinda like game, third roaming and levelling up; and the last, IW, with Mini games and such. Each time it was different and creative. For that I must commend Dimps.

I think they should go and make the story a World Tournament, where all the fighters of the Universe gather la-dy-da. A mode like this would mean they could do anything about the roster of the game because it wouldn't follow the story line. There could be scenarios and cutscenes where rival characters say this or that, even walking about the arena, or training in the HTC for a fight. I don't know but there's a lot of possibility in this idea.

Unfortunately that last part is unlikely to happen. There was info on such a thing happening this year, however it was ruled out, due to the expenses or whatever. It would be great though, but sadly it's not gonna happen. What I find the most funny though is that they are attempting to make a game which is a bit of a fighter, but, 3D, and open arena/genuinely fun games (how do you describe this sorta game, you get what I mean right?). But they fail at both these things. The fighting system is extremely bland it isn't funny, and the game is simply not good. Look at other open arena fighters, or unorthdox fighting games. Dissiddia is really fun, and Smash Brothers is also quite fun. I'm not sure why Spike didn't try and make a game like these, it really seems like the sorta thing they are going for; but for some reason aren't able to.

[dbboxkaifan]

DonieZ, "DB game I liked the most" is pretty indefinite.

My favourites:

DB - Dragon Ball Advanced Adventures

DBZ - Dragon Ball Z 1 / Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit

GT - Dragon Ball Z Tenkaichi 3 (the story skips a lot but it gets the job done, and there really isn't a top notch GT game out there.. There's GT Transformation but the gameplay's like a rip-off from Streets of Rage not really a DBGT game-ish)

Kai - Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit

Apparently Tenkaichi 2 has a better story mode than the third title, but not really interested on buying it since the international version doesn't feature the original music. I bought & completed Tenkaichi 3 on PS2 but probably never going to pick it up again.

At least with the current gen games I'm able to activate custom soundtracks on Xbox 360, so this means original music ftw!

[Master Blaster]

As a RPG fan I would like more games like Dragon Ball Z - Attack of the Saiyans. That game did a good job capturing the DB world and the characters, their attacks, etc.

[DonieZ]

Yeah, I'd love a well-done RPG. Personally I'd like an original DB version, simply because the series seems to have a lot more potential in the RPG genre, it having a lot of adventure and stuff. Also the physics wouldn't have to be out of this world in the same you'd expect Z to be (eventhough it somewhat is intense) as you wouldn't necessarily have everyone flying around the place. I can imagine a series of about 3 DB title RPG's, could be great. I'm not sure I'd like Spike doing it though, I'd really want a series like this to be proper well-done. There's that and the time limit. A lot of factors which inhibit the potential of our franchise. I'm pretty sure at least the handhelds are pretty good. If only I had a DS...

[DBZ Mick]

Play The Legacy of Goku II! My favourite DBZ game, personally. It's a little light as an RPG but it has quite a lot to do, covers pretty much the whole of the Artificial Human/Cell arcs, lots of quests, some little surprises...

[DonieZ]

Play The Legacy of Goku II! My favourite DBZ game, personally. It's a little light as an RPG but it has quite a lot to do, covers pretty much the whole of the Artificial Human/Cell arcs, lots of quests, some little surprises...

Yeah, played that years ago, and recently began playing the third on my phone emulator. I was talking more of a home console RPG, for the PS360 perhaps. I'd really like to see a well-done home console DB RPG.

[DBZ Mick]

They should get Webfoot who made the LOG trilogy to make a console RPG.

[dbboxkaifan]

Don, you know what I'd like to see about DBZ?

Dragon Ball Z Vs. Mortal Kombat game, in this game, the DBZ characters would be ripped apart like the MK ones, and the rest would be the same attacks as always.

But if it were to end up like "DC Universe x Mortal Kombat" then no.

This would bring back the bloody violence that was taken away from the DBZ game years ago, not that it is needed, but I wouldn't mind see Piccolo Mankankosappo'ing Sub-Zero as the "finish 'em" blow to the head.

I know this probably will never happen. Damn.

[DonieZ]

Don, you know what I'd like to see about DBZ?

Dragon Ball Z Vs. Mortal Kombat game, in this game, the DBZ characters would be ripped apart like the MK ones, and the rest would be the same attacks as always.

But if it were to end up like "DC Universe x Mortal Kombat" then no.

This would bring back the bloody violence that was taken away from the DBZ game years ago, not that it is needed, but I wouldn't mind see Piccolo Mankankosappo'ing Sub-Zero as the "finish 'em" blow to the head.

I know this probably will never happen. Damn.

Eh, I'm not sure the Mortal Kombat style would suit DB, though I get why you say it for it to be more brutal and bloody. I think if DB games are at least 12+ they can have some blood and violent images, to an extent I guess.

About the gameplay, I think DB(Z) needs its completely own style, as it's very unique to these other fighters. I don't think Budokai, despite it being fun, does it right. Needs more options.