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I find it funny that after seeing the ESF video you can still talk about ZEQ2 Lite as if it's "doing a good job as well", while actually it's nowhere near as good. Unless you're some sort of dev/fan of it?TRL wrote: There's always Zeq2lite. Doing a pretty good job as well.
How's that ferocious? I simply noted that the argument about there being too much grass and not enough dirt may very well be invalid as long as ESF is basing the map on the manga. Interestingly, we have the "too much green" joke on ESF forums, however it's only a joke there and in no way implies that the Cell Games map is in any way incorrect.TRL wrote:Well you seem... biased.
You don't have to defend esf so ferociously. We're just discussing here, isn't that the point?
You do realize there are some color pages during the latter half of the Cell Games, right? Its about a 70/30 dirt to grass ratio, in most pictures, and full desert in the others.hleV wrote:Do you all really know exactly how the Cell Games were supposed to look in the manga? Because looking at the pages, it seems like grass rather than dirt to me. And ESF tends to base things on the manga, while having some semi-realistic stuff added as well in some cases.
I do. There ain't no color pages portraying the environment of the Cell Games before the battle happened, though.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:You do realize there are some color pages during the latter half of the Cell Games, right? Its about a 70/30 dirt to grass ratio, in most pictures, and full desert in the others.
Isn't Trunks' hair purple like in the manga here?TheDevilsCorpse wrote:PS-If they are trying to base their game more on the manga, they need to recolor Trunks.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
The grass is much more pleasing to the eye.
I never said it was the hair they needed to recolor. If they want to match the actual manga, they need to change the outfit and sword. Toriyama does indeed have Trunks wear those colors, but not the specific combination in a single image. The only time I think he even comes close is the Chapter 337 title page, but Trunks doesn't wear his jacket. In the images that have him with a dark jacket, he has different colored sword sheath and stuff, or its in promotional material not for the manga itself. They should have just gone with something closer to Super DBZ:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Isn't Trunks' hair purple like in the manga here?TheDevilsCorpse wrote:PS-If they are trying to base their game more on the manga, they need to recolor Trunks.
I'm not saying turn the whole damn stage into a desert, just add some more dirt splotches to the outer rim of one side of the stage. lol The maps are fairly big, and this allows them to break up the overwhelming amount of green and allow a little better representation of what we're shown in the series, as the Cell battle does take place in both a grassy area with the ring, and an obviously less grassy area away from where the ring once was.ThunderPX wrote:I think a more important question is, do you really need another wasteland background considering where half the damn battles in the series seem to take place?
MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
Yes.Gonstead wrote: Does this game have any online servers that are currently still operational?
MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
ESForces.com wrote:For the past few weeks Ryokeen has been hard at work adding and optimizing shaders for ESF. One of the latest additions is a wave generator. The new shader gives ESF environment artists the option to add ocean like water to maps.
During initial tests the ocean shader has shown a performance increase over the older "flat" water shader. The system uses a grid of approximately 50K polygons to generate the waves. This can be reduced to meet the performance requirements of lower-end machines. Also, the system implements a level of detail system that increases the amount of detail a player sees the closer they get to the water.
http://youtu.be/VrQr_iPyPiw
