Dragon Box: The Movies - FUNimation Release Still Possible?

[dbboxkaifan]

I don't see Funimation releasing an entire box set like the Japanese. could you image the price tag?

The Dragon Box Z 1 to 7 roughly cost between $30 to $60, later on $25-$40.

DBOX:TM could may have the same prices, divided into 2-3 parts, I'd prefer just two.

Going by how FUNi released Dragon Box Z, English Dub with Original Music, and Original Japanese Audio, it'd be great to have as such (no US music) and be consistent.

[dario03]

Personally with any dragonball release I would prefer to have everything. Uncropped, uncut, remastered video, mixable Japanese and English Audio, all the extras from episodes like NEP and eyecatchers (or whatever they're called) but I would like to be able to turn those on/off. I don't see it happening but I think it would be kind of cool if Funi and Ocean split the cost somehow and released a version that included both Funi and Ocean versions. If that doesn't fit the title of Dragon Box then just call it something else.

[penguintruth]

Some people actually want the random rock songs track with their movies?

[dario03]

Yeah some people do. Personally I want the Funi music in the episodes more so than the movies but there are parts where I like the random rock music more than the original. For example I like the Pantera music during Broly's transformation in movie 8. If they just put a bunch of stuff in but make it all selectable and not degrade the quality then everybody can be happy.

[Daimakku]

Do you think Funimation will include the American broadcast music in it?

US broadcast music has no place on a Dragonbox release as it is designed for fans of the original Japanese version. There are already enough releases with it on there already, & if you really want it on Dragonbox masters it can be done easily enough with a computer & a DVD drive.

I really have a hard time understanding viewpoints like this. Who's to say that only the fans of the original Japanese version have the right to an easily accessible way of having the best video with their favorite choice of audio? While it may not have been "right" for FUNimation to make new musical scores for the movies (as well as the Z series), the fact is, that's what happened and that's what some people enjoy, or sometimes even prefer. It doesn't seem fair for fans of certain scores to be denied great video quality.

As long as it doesn't "hurt" the video quality, I think all three audio options should be present. Make it fair for everyone and stop splitting the fanbase, catering certain releases to fans of certain audio options. Why not one release that's the best for everyone? I just feel like too many people, rather than have a release that can make everybody happy, want one where the fans of the other are left out.

*end of rant*

Seriously though, as a fan of both, I can't see why people don't want both sides (sub and dub) of the fandom to be happy.

I agree.. why demand to have less when you can have more with little to no extra cost? I'm not a huge fan of the english dub for DBZ but I'm glad the option is there on the Dragonboxes just because it can. Sometimes I change it just to hear the awful dub, the over 9000s, Piccolo's motivational speech, the "find out TODAY on DRAGONBALL ZEEE!" etc. I don't get pissed because the option is there.

I say the movies should have Falcouner's music included too, for the dub fans. DBZ in america is divided in half (or more like, 3/4ths). The 1/4s being fans of the original and the majority being fans of the Toonami version.. I cant blame them, their first experience of DBZ was with the dub, and that's DBZ for them. We should all get a little something. I see nothing wrong with having both options in the Dragonboxes, as long as it defaults straight to the japanese dub/bgm.

[AgitoZ]

I don't get pissed because the option is there.

So don't get pissed when the option isn't there.

I say the movies should have Falcouner's music included too, for the dub fans.

Why? I thought he just did the TV series. Why include tracks that weren't in the original replacement soundtrack?

DBZ in america is divided in half (or more like, 3/4ths). The 1/4s being fans of the original and the majority being fans of the Toonami version..

The majority of fans couldn't pick out the differences between versions of FUNi's dubs. The majority just like DBZ and Toonami is where they first saw it. That doesn't make 'em fans of the Toonami version.

I see nothing wrong with having both options in the Dragonboxes, as long as it defaults straight to the japanese dub/bgm.

I do, they take up space.

[Son Satan]

DBOX:TM could may have the same prices, divided into 2-3 parts, I'd prefer just two.

Like I said:

If FUNi is only doing Z Movies, then they can just keep them divided as they are [on the R2 release], and make one 6-disc set. Even if the TV specials for Z end up there, Krycek7o2 says there's enough space to have two dubs, so with one dub I'm sure they can find a space.

[dario03]

I do, they take up space.

Somebody already covered that

It is a factor for me because it takes up space on the disc and affects the video quality.

The movies have more than enough space for the dubs, especially since FUNi would downscale the Japanese audio to 96kbps One Channel Mono. Even the disc with the most extras, there is well over a gig plus on each disc. Enough for one track @ 448 kbps 5.1 DD, two on pretty much every disc except Disc 2 and Disc 5.

So if he is right then it sounds like good quality audio only takes up about 500MB which is nothing to a dual layer DVD's ~8.5GB or a dual layer Blu Ray's ~50GB.

[penguintruth]

The 1/4s being fans of the original and the majority being fans of the Toonami version.. I cant blame them, their first experience of DBZ was with the dub, and that's DBZ for them.

I guess it would be asking too much for people to develop taste over time?

[Son Satan]

So if he is right then it sounds like good quality audio only takes up about 500MB which is nothing to a dual layer DVD's ~8.5GB or a dual layer Blu Ray's ~50GB.

Especially if you consider that FUNi would likely get rid of the on-disc extras.

[Rukura]

Uhm...when FUNimation released all of the Dragon Box Z volumes without the dub music...was it not made obvious that they would do the same for any other future Dragon Box release?

Yes, I personally think the dub music is not good as Dragon Ball Z music....but that's not the point. At all.

[OutlawTorn]

The 1/4s being fans of the original and the majority being fans of the Toonami version.. I cant blame them, their first experience of DBZ was with the dub, and that's DBZ for them.

I guess it would be asking too much for people to develop taste over time?

What's wrong with people not liking some aspects of the Japanese version? "Japanese" or "original" don't always equal "better." However, in terms of the soundtrack, I would personally have to agree that the original score is better than the replacement. I don't begrudge people who prefer the replacement score because whether people like something is entirely subjective.

Just because I seriously dislike what is categorized under pop music (maybe something else, I don't know) these days, like Rihanna, Alicia Keys, etc. (one of the reasons being that type of music gives me headaches) I don't wonder how anybody could possibly like such stuff and consider them tasteless when it comes to music. Who am I, after all, to tell people what they should and shouldn't like?

Uhm...when FUNimation released all of the Dragon Box Z volumes without the dub music...was it not made obvious that they would do the same for any other future Dragon Box release?

Can't speak for everybody else, but that's not what I'm arguing. The point I'm trying to make is it's not up to people who don't have a say in the matter to say whether or not the replacement score has a place on a FUNimation product.

Just like arguments I have seen regarding people wanting the broadcast version to buy the orange season sets or the recently released movie packs, the R2 discs are there for people who want strictly the Japanese version with no English version whatsoever.

[dbboxkaifan]

Uhm...when FUNimation released all of the Dragon Box Z volumes without the dub music...was it not made obvious that they would do the same for any other future Dragon Box release?

Exactly.

Yes, I personally think the dub music is not good as Dragon Ball Z music....but that's not the point. At all.

The dub music on the DBZ films by Nathan is quite good, I like them, but the random rock songs, is unfitting and pretty much as if the films were a bunch of AMVs.

[VegettoEX]

I don't think, at this point, we actually need another thread listing, "I like this version of the music! I like that version of the music!" Not gonna accomplish much.

Near as I can tell, we have a few viewpoints on which/how music inclusion thing whatever stuff:

- The Dragon Boxes should not include music that was never produced with and for the original version in mind

- The Dragon Boxes should include whatever they can technologically fit, sure; don't really care; mostly just care about the original being there as pristine as it can be

- I absolutely need to have my replacement music as an option

Again, at this point, it's been established WHAT folks can possibly think, so I don't think it's necessary for every single last person to toss their two cents in one after another with no real discussion in mind.

One thing to remember is that the disc space available isn't the only thing that determines how many audio tracks can be included -- the amount of available disc bandwidth is an issue. However, considering the amount of audio tracks (usually three, such as on the orange bricks and such) that have been included (and some even of the 5.1 surround variety), with two (or even three) movies per disc a la the original Japanese discs, this is probably not an issue.

[Son Satan]

However, considering the amount of audio tracks (usually three, such as on the orange bricks and such) that have been included (and some even of the 5.1 surround variety), with two (or even three) movies per disc a la the original Japanese discs, this is probably not an issue.

But don't FUNimation's movie releases have mono tracks for the Japanese version? There'd be less space with 2.0 stereo, though how much I can't say.

[Silkman3003]

What's wrong with people not liking some aspects of the Japanese version? "Japanese" or "original" don't always equal "better." However, in terms of the soundtrack, I would personally have to agree that the original score is better than the replacement. I don't begrudge people who prefer the replacement score because whether people like something is entirely subjective.

Exactly. Which is why it's silly as hell to say that they should acquire "taste" over time. It's subjective as hell. I don't even like the Jpn soundtrack that much. Hell I actually prefer the American OST in the dbz movies, compared to the Jpn tracks. But there is no way in hell I would tell people o that they should get some "taste" on something that is opinionated. Dub/music, etc. People may prefer the original eng dub. Others may prefer the Jpn version. Just let them have their interests, and try not to be antagonizing about it. It's one of the reasons why I absolutely loathe music debates.

Just because I seriously dislike what is categorized under pop music (maybe something else, I don't know) these days, like Rihanna, Alicia Keys, etc. (one of the reasons being that type of music gives me headaches) I don't wonder how anybody could possibly like such stuff and consider them tasteless when it comes to music. Who am I, after all, to tell people what they should and shouldn't like?

You can't. At the end of the damn day, it's subjective and opinionated. There is literally no way in hell that you can force your "taste" onto others. Nor treat it as fact.(I'm agreeing with you btw. Not attacking you personally)

As for the topic, If Funi were to release the Dbox Movies, then I would actually like if they included the American OST as well. I prefer the replacement music over the original. But if they can't/wouldn't include it, then oh well.(watch while someone tries to twist my wording)

[samuraix123]

Here's a question I was thinking about, Let's say Funimation is releasing Dragon-Box: The Movies. which would you prefer them to be released on? DVD? or Blu-ray? Is it stupid to say that if Funimation release's it on Blu-ray they might not make as much money as they would with a DVD release? I think it would be great myself to have a Blu-ray box-set of the movies. thoughts?

[dbboxkaifan]

Here's a question I was thinking about, Let's say Funimation is releasing Dragon-Box: The Movies. which would you prefer them to be released on? DVD? or Blu-ray? Is it stupid to say that if Funimation release's it on Blu-ray they might not make as much money as they would with a DVD release? I think it would be great myself to have a Blu-ray box-set of the movies. thoughts?

DVD. It was originally released on DVD and that's how I want to receive it also.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

Here's a question I was thinking about, Let's say Funimation is releasing Dragon-Box: The Movies. which would you prefer them to be released on? DVD? or Blu-ray?

Might as well be DVD, because the DBox masters are only 480p. If they were to get a Blu-ray release, it would have to be an upscale, and those never look as good as anything in true HD. Not to mention not everyone has jumped onto the Blu-ray bandwagon yet.

[Son Satan]

Here's a question I was thinking about, Let's say Funimation is releasing Dragon-Box: The Movies. which would you prefer them to be released on? DVD? or Blu-ray? Is it stupid to say that if Funimation release's it on Blu-ray they might not make as much money as they would with a DVD release? I think it would be great myself to have a Blu-ray box-set of the movies. thoughts?

DVD, because it was mastered in SD, so Blu-Ray, aside from more disc space, would be pretty pointless. If they did a Blu-Ray, I'd rather they do BD and DVD like they did with Kai.