The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by Herms » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:47 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Any kind soul that would translate the page I posted please? :roll:
This sort of thing really doesn't motivate me to do you any favors.

I'm also annoyed at people posting up seemingly random manga panels/pages and asking for translations without any explanation of why they want them translated.

I'm going to go over those Boo images, but this will be the last strength-related translation request I take, either in this thread or in PMs or anything. I probably won't respond to any of the other translation requests in this thread either, but there's at least a slight chance I will if it's something I find interesting.

Anyway, here's the Boo stuff:
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Describes the pure Boo as “powered up” (in comparison to what form isn’t specified). From DB Forever, a manga guidebook.

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Says Goku has “The highest respect towards the strongest enemy!” From DB Forever.

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Says Vegetto won’t let “the mightiest majin” lay a finger on him. From DB Forever.

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Says Boo was weakened by having his absorptions undone. From DB Forever.

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Says Goku is excited about a battle with the existence of the entire universe on the line, and that the pure Boo comes to the Kaioshin Realm seeking strong opponents. From DB Forever.

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Says Boo absorbed the South Kaioshin’s power and physique, evolving a powerful body, though it’s not clear how this changed his personality. From DBZ Son Goku Densetsu, an anime guidebook.

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Says Gohan-absorbed Boo is so powerful that on his own Goku is no match even as a Super Saiyan 3. From DBZ Son Goku Densetsu.

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Says Boo became calmer and easier to control after absorbing Dai-Kaioshin. He loves to eat and has childlike innocence, but becomes unstoppable when angry. From DBZ Son Goku Densetsu.

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Says Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 2. From the third TV Animation daizenshuu.

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Refers to Super Saiyan 3 as “the Super Saiyan that can appropriately be called strongest”. From the third TV Animation daizenshuu.

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Says that Gohan-absorbed Boo’s strength is such that he can appropriately be called “the mightiest majin”. He’s powered up even more than he was with Gotenks, without any time limit before he powers down, and combines Gotenks’ techniques, Piccolo’s brains, and Gohan’s power. From the website of one of the 3D fighting games (the Sparking!/Budokai Tenkaichi series, I think).

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Refers to Gohan as having “fantastic power surpassing even Super Saiyan 3” following the Elder Kaioshin’s power-up. From (I think) DB Ultimate Battle Collection Round 02, an anime guidebook.

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The last portion of Toriyama’s interview in Daizenshuu 2, a manga guidebook. I have no clue what part of this was considered relevant to the Boo strength debate. Gohan as an unsuitable main character? It being unfair for everyone to team up against Boo? Fortunately I already translated the whole thing for Kanzentai:
Q: And then the Cell arc ended. Did you think that everyone felt you would put Gohan into the leading role?
A: I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn't work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.

Q: Incidentally, who is your favorite character?
A: Yeah, I guess I like Piccolo the most after all. Out of all the enemies, Piccolo Daimao is the one I like most, and even after that I like Piccolo the most. I like Piccolo about the same as I like Goku. With Vegeta, well, I don't like him all that much, but he was extremely helpful to have around. For the recent stuff, it was fun drawing Satan. When I first brought him out, I didn't think that I would end up making Satan that important of a character. I thought he'd just be a one-shot character.

Satan is like that, but thinking up worthless gags is more enjoyable than doing the fight scenes. (laughs)

Q: That all really took off with Gotenks. There are legends that at the time your editor Takeda-san saw the storyboards in the editing department, and would crack up at it every week. (laughs)
A: I suppose I am a gag-manga artist after all. (laughs)

But then after all, I'm always thinking of how there are a lot of guys on our side, but only one enemy. If you think about it, isn't it unfair? (laughs) They can just gang up on him. (laughs)

Q: So it's like Goku's line at the end of the battle with Majin Buu.
A: That's right. He said "You did well all on your own". I suppose that Goku's motive was that no matter what kind of enemy there was, he wanted to fight them one-on-one.

Looking over the entire work, Goku always wished for that. Today has been a very valuable conversation, so thank you very much.
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Describes the pure Boo as having the smallest and most childlike body out of all the Boos, but also the “most formidable power and ability”. From (I think) DB Ultimate Battle Collection Round 02.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by FNF » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:51 pm

Fox666 wrote: I guess the image from Budokai Tenkaichi 3 may say that Gohan-absorbed Evil Boo is the strongest Majin Boo of all. But I am just speculating.
Well the Raging Blast 1 character description of Gohan-Boo says 'it would be no exaggeration to say he's the strongest Majin Boo' or something along those lines so it could roughly be the same. The funny thing is though that Pure Boo's 'power level' in raging blast is still the highest xD

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@Herms, some of those translations are so contradictory I don't even want to get started lol.

Also can you say what guidebooks are anime orientated and vice versa please?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by Herms » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:08 pm

FNF wrote:Also can you say what guidebooks are anime orientated and vice versa please?
Um...I kinda already did, except with Daizenshuu 2, which I've fixed. I only mention whether a guidebook is manga or anime-based the first time it's name comes up though, to avoid saying the same thing again and again.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by FNF » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:20 pm

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FNF wrote:Also can you say what guidebooks are anime orientated and vice versa please?
Um...I kinda already did, except with Daizenshuu 2, which I've fixed. I only mention whether a guidebook is manga or anime-based the first time it's name comes up though, to avoid saying the same thing again and again.
I fell like an utter derp fml -_-'
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:28 pm

At the risk of throwing myself to the wolves, I have to interject and suggest that some folks may possibly be reading far too much into statements made for marketing purposes that exist simply to say, "these are pretty strong dudes!"
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by FNF » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:41 pm

VegettoEX wrote:At the risk of throwing myself to the wolves, I have to interject and suggest that some folks may possibly be reading far too much into statements made for marketing purposes that exist simply to say, "these are pretty strong dudes!"
Even when you consider that it just seems utterly stupid when you have a blunt statement saying 'Boo was weakened by having his absorptions undone' then another that says Boo 'powered up' lol


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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

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Post by FNF » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:48 pm

Fox666 wrote:I wouldn't call it "stupid", they are from different prints, including artbooks.
Both statements are from DB forever, the manga guidebook :P

+the scan you posted seems to confirm it was pretty much an anime exclusive publication (Bididi is shown as he appears in the anime after all).
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by Herms » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:53 pm

Fox666 wrote:And the second image, I was very lucky now of finding the full page. But I have no idea what publication this page is from.
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Hmmm...that actually looks like it's from the Dragon Book that goes along with the second Japanese Dragon Box. Hujio would know for sure though. The image also quotes Goku's anime-only line about the pure Boo being on a different level than all the others.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:18 pm

Let's see if I can make these work together at all.
Herms wrote:Describes the pure Boo as “powered up” (in comparison to what form isn’t specified). From DB Forever, a manga guidebook.
Boo was weaker at first in his initial form, enough so that Goku and Vegeta thought he'd be no problem. But a little later, he revealed power that Goku could barely match with Super Saiyan 3. So Pure Boo did "power up," but within his own realm of power, not necessarily compared to any other form.
Says Goku has “The highest respect towards the strongest enemy!” From DB Forever.
Majin Boo, in general, is the "strongest enemy" in the series, as opposed to Freeza or Cell or anyone else. It's an appropriate comment to make as Boo is about to finally be eradicated.
Says Boo was weakened by having his absorptions undone. From DB Forever.
That does seem to be the case.

Before: "There's no way we can beat him unless we Fuse!"
After: "Yeah, we can handle him now!" -> "You can take him out with Super Saiyan 3, Kakarrot!"
Says Boo absorbed the South Kaioshin’s power and physique, evolving a powerful body, though it’s not clear how this changed his personality. From DBZ Son Goku Densetsu, an anime guidebook.
At the very least, this is official word that absorbing the South Kaioshin added power to Boo, rather than subtracting it like the Grand Kaioshin did.
Says Gohan-absorbed Boo is so powerful that on his own Goku is no match even as a Super Saiyan 3. From DBZ Son Goku Densetsu.
Obvious enough.
Says Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 2. From the third TV Animation daizenshuu.
This probably is best taken just about Gohan himself, given that Super Saiyan 2 was the upper limit of his power before. "He's way stronger now than he was as a Super Saiyan 2 before."
Refers to Super Saiyan 3 as “the Super Saiyan that can appropriately be called strongest”. From the third TV Animation daizenshuu.
Better worded as, "it's the strongest Super Saiyan form?"
Refers to Gohan as having “fantastic power surpassing even Super Saiyan 3” following the Elder Kaioshin’s power-up. From (I think) DB Ultimate Battle Collection Round 02, an anime guidebook.
Could easily mean either that Gohan's 'Ultimate' power-up granted him more power than he would have as a Super Saiyan 3 (obvious), or that he's now stronger than either of the two Super Saiyan 3 characters, Goku and Gotenks (also obvious).
Describes the pure Boo as having the smallest and most childlike body out of all the Boos, but also the “most formidable power and ability”. From (I think) DB Ultimate Battle Collection Round 02.
If this one quote is just repeating the blatantly Goku-wanking line from the anime about Pure Boo being the strongest of all the Boos, then it's the only real contradictory one.

All in all, the rest does fit together with some... creativity.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

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Kaboom wrote:
Describes the pure Boo as having the smallest and most childlike body out of all the Boos, but also the “most formidable power and ability”. From (I think) DB Ultimate Battle Collection Round 02.
If this one quote is just repeating the blatantly Goku-wanking line from the anime about Pure Boo being the strongest of all the Boos, then it's the only real contradictory one.

All in all, the rest does fit together with some... creativity.
Nicely said. I watched that episode last week for the first time in Japanese and realized that is where a lot of the controversy surrounding Pure Boo's power comes from.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:26 pm

Herms wrote:
Fox666 wrote:And the second image, I was very lucky now of finding the full page. But I have no idea what publication this page is from.
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Hmmm...that actually looks like it's from the Dragon Book that goes along with the second Japanese Dragon Box. Hujio would know for sure though. The image also quotes Goku's anime-only line about the pure Boo being on a different level than all the others.
It may very well be. We do, after all, have that content in English now, so I pulled it out and checked. The image of Boo and the layout is different, but the actual quoted text seems to be the same:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by FNF » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:28 pm

Well moving on from Boo stuff to..erm...more Boo stuff.

I found this scan from DBForever and I wanted to know if there's anything worthwhile in it;

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+Does this refer to Bra being somewhat strong?;

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Post by FNF » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:03 pm

Fox666 wrote: Using a reverse image search, the first picture is from this site, so it is nothing but a generic scan with no meaning other than showing the product.
But it's an actual scan from the guide itself. It doesn't mean there is no meaning to it other than to promote the product. That is like saying a scan from the manga is just promoting the manga.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Post by FNF » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:02 pm

Well I'm aware that the smaller text is impossible to translate. I'm just wondering if there is anything at all that's worthwhile.
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