Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu Ray or DVD?

Post by samuraix123 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:36 pm

Yup everything is up to date on my 360 something pops up and says attempting to read disc then it just keeps saying disc unreadable. That's the only disc that it will do that too but when I put that same disc into my BR player. It works like a charm :)
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu Ray or DVD?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:12 pm

samuraix123 wrote:Yup everything is up to date on my 360 something pops up and says attempting to read disc then it just keeps saying disc unreadable. That's the only disc that it will do that too but when I put that same disc into my BR player. It works like a charm :)
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu Ray or DVD?

Post by Sshadow5001 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:15 pm

I don't have a blueray player and I'm in no rush to get one. I do have a region free DVD player with HDMI upscaling capabilities though and DVD's still look great.
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu Ray or DVD?

Post by dprez » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:15 pm

email2003 wrote:DVD for DBZ. DBZ was never meant to be on HD Blu-ray.
This is what I think. DBZ is just fine on DVD.

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Post by kei17 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:23 pm

dprez wrote:
email2003 wrote:DVD for DBZ. DBZ was never meant to be on HD Blu-ray.
This is what I think. DBZ is just fine on DVD.
So how about movies? They were meant to be seen on a quite big screen.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:55 pm

kei17 wrote:This is what I think. DBZ is just fine on DVD.
So how about movies? They were meant to be seen on a quite big screen.[/quote]

I was told the Dragon Box the Films (erm... "The Movies") looked fantastic on a 40"-something LCD.

Dragon Box Z series looks terrific, I really hope FUNi gets to release the films box next, or the original Dragon Ball series.
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu Ray or DVD?

Post by NitroEX » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:06 pm

Sshadow5001 wrote:I don't have a blueray player and I'm in no rush to get one.
I was the same until I saw the anime film Redline in bluray and now I'm really rempted to get a bluray player.

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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by Aoi » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:38 pm

I have a question about DBZ on DVD.

Why is it that you can hear the music a lot better in Mono? Every time I play the dub in Stereo, you can never hear the music as well because the voices are usually drowning it out. I find that a bit odd.


The main reason I'm waiting for a proper Blu Ray release is so I can listen to the Japanese original, with the correct music/voice match on 5.1 digital. If not for that, I'd probably not care about the picture quality.
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:42 pm

In that case, it has nothing to do with it being on Blu-ray or DVD (or even VHS) -- it's all about the actual mixing that went on in the authoring studio.

That's always been a complaint about FUNimation's English dub track with the Japanese music. For whatever reason, the mixing job isn't as thorough as it should have been, I guess.
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by Aoi » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:45 pm

VegettoEX wrote:In that case, it has nothing to do with it being on Blu-ray or DVD (or even VHS) -- it's all about the actual mixing that went on in the authoring studio.

That's always been a complaint about FUNimation's English dub track with the Japanese music. For whatever reason, the mixing job isn't as thorough as it should have been, I guess.
Interesting; so it seems that the Blu Rays present us with a high quality version of this correct "mix" that I just wrote about?

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Post by CyberpunkCentral » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:26 pm

Some people here have the wrong idea about Blu-ray. Blu-ray is not about making things look new, it's about bringing a more faithful presentation to the film. That's exactly what the Level sets did. Just because you grew up watching Dragon Ball in SD doesn't mean that's how it suppose to look. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the later episodes of Dragon Ball Z, movies, and GT shot in 35mm? They should be perfectly capable for Blu-ray.
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:28 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:Also correct me I'm wrong, but isn't the later episodes of Dragon Ball Z, movies, and GT shot in 35mm? They should be perfectly capable for Blu-ray.
Just the movies. Supposedly 35mm negatives exist for a few Freeza episodes but that's debatable.

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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by MarcFBR » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:34 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:Some people here have the wrong idea about Blu-ray. Blu-ray is not about making things look new, it's about bringing a more faithful presentation to the film. That's exactly what the Level sets did. Just because you grew up watching Dragon Ball in SD doesn't mean that's how it suppose to look. Also correct me I'm wrong, but isn't the later episodes of Dragon Ball Z, movies, and GT shot in 35mm? They should be perfectly capable for Blu-ray.
Blu-ray isn't necessarily about bringing a more faithful presentation. That is in THEORY the goal, but often the goal isn't what it actually ends up being 'about'.


And most animation from that era was drawn, then the cels were shot onto film, not out of a specific quality concern, but because it was a necessity of how animation was made.

35mm was what used because that was what was considered professional grade. DBZ was a cheaply made show. The fact it was mastered onto 35mm doesn't change this (and I believe most of DBZ was actually done on 16mm, but I'm not sure about that.) Dragon Ball as a show was basically meant to be watched on a small (compared to modern TVs) SD color CRT screen, with a decent portion of the edges cropped off.


Generally the arguments we make are based around wanting 'as close to the master' as possible, but frankly, that isn't to the intention of what was made, nor is demanding as close to aired, because we have no idea if any given station had their machines set up correctly.

So the generality becomes- Do as good as a disk as you can, with the best masters you have, without tweaking them whenever possible.
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by TheNamekGio » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:10 pm

I personally would prefer the dvd. Well for the simple fact that the show is from the mid 80s to the 90s. It was never supposed to be eye popping quality.( Well I guess for its time it was). But think about it, what if your favorite 80's show.. Mine was He-Man, was in blue ray?
I still like the old grainyness of the show and the old school feel. Now thats just me personally.
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by dprez » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:18 pm

Well since I have never actually watched the blu-ray discs, and only seen screen shots, I can't say for certain, but even if I had the two to compare, I know I would prefer my Dragon Box discs.

I prefer the colors of the Dragon Box and all the Japenese elements of watching it that way. The blu-ray screen shots look incredibly clear and clean, but I am a big fan of grain like many others here. I prefer to watch the show the way it was seen back in the day, with that old school feel to it, and the blu-ray's give it a new age look that doesn't really appeal to me.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:21 pm

dprez wrote:Well since I have never actually watched the blu-ray discs, and only seen screen shots, I can't say for certain, but even if I had the two to compare, I know I would prefer my Dragon Box discs.

I prefer the colors of the Dragon Box and all the Japenese elements of watching it that way. The blu-ray screen shots look incredibly clear and clean, but I am a big fan of grain like many others here. I prefer to watch the show the way it was seen back in the day, with that old school feel to it, and the blu-ray's give it a new age look that doesn't really appeal to me.
Blu-ray only shines if you own an HDTV (FullHD is better) from 32" and above.

I love watching the DBZ Kai episodes on BD, but each part ends so quick I just want more but gotta wait.

Pinocchio is incredibly detailed and beautiful to watch in pure 1080p HD on Blu-ray.
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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by dprez » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:10 pm

^ Yea that makes sense. Haha Pinocchio ehh? Awesome film. Never seen it in Blu-ray though.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:46 pm

dprez wrote:^ Yea that makes sense. Haha Pinocchio ehh? Awesome film. Never seen it in Blu-ray though.
Glad I got it, it went from £9 to £40+, crazy then again Disney likes to vault their stuff (turning into rarities).

If you do get an HDTV FullHD + BDP pick up DBZ Kai on Blu-ray and watch it, you'll love the quality.

Bought TLK (The Lion King) US Blu-ray but haven't yet seen it all.

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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by dprez » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:21 pm

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dprez wrote:^ Yea that makes sense. Haha Pinocchio ehh? Awesome film. Never seen it in Blu-ray though.
Glad I got it, it went from £9 to £40+, crazy then again Disney likes to vault their stuff (turning into rarities).

If you do get an HDTV FullHD + BDP pick up DBZ Kai on Blu-ray and watch it, you'll love the quality.

Bought TLK (The Lion King) US Blu-ray but haven't yet seen it all.

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So Kai on Blu-ray with a badass HDTV really looks awesome huh? I heard that the Japanese cast were better back in the day. Do you watch Blu-ray Kai in English or Japanese? Is is edited out the ass like it is on tv for the home releases?

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Re: Do you prefer to watch Dragon Ball on Blu-ray or DVD?

Post by MarcFBR » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:28 pm

dprez wrote:Is is edited out the ass like it is on tv for the home releases?
Do you read the forum at all? Or any DBZ news?

dbboxkaifan wrote:Bought TLK (The Lion King) US Blu-ray but haven't yet seen it all.
I won't speak for everyone, but just because we use shorthand for some stuff like 'DBZ', we don't have to shorthand for EVERYTHING (especially if you have to post out right after what the shorthand stands for.)
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