Some interesting new fun facts I've thought of.

[Mike D]

Yea, gotta get my last post of 2005 in.

Here's a fun fact for ya! Bulma's the only woman show topless in Dragonball!

I'm such a perv!

What about those women in Roshi's porn magazines?

Happy New Years!!!

2006!

[Eclipse]

I still have two hours left.

And you also forgot the women in Bulma's father's magazines.

[Socar15]

For the same reason SSj3 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan in Movie 13. Or how there's another Saiyan still alive in movie 3. Etc., etc.

Indeed. TOEI is often out of the loop, and Toriyama actually has to mention things after the fact (such as Vegeta's hair color needing to be black instead of brownish).

[Duo]

Another possibility could be that it saves energy, something Freeza claims to be the case, which might be the reason why fourth form Freeza, upon transforming, was only half as strong as his maximum. If this is the case, I feel he'd always be the small, skinny Freeza at max if he always remained in fourth form.

Only half? He was using like...less than 5% of his power then he first transformed. His Final Form max is like...dozens times more powerful than his third form.

[BlaZin]

Another possibility could be that it saves energy, something Freeza claims to be the case, which might be the reason why fourth form Freeza, upon transforming, was only half as strong as his maximum. If this is the case, I feel he'd always be the small, skinny Freeza at max if he always remained in fourth form.

Yeah because it does saves engery and I would assume being in any transformed state would cause somewhat of a strain on that person/being. But like Duo said he was only using like a percent of his power when he went into his final form, which makes sense because who would just start out barring it all? conserving is not only tactical, its helpful.

[Conan the SSJ]

Hey, Blazin, we're not allowed to have avatars that exceed an 80x80 size, and pics aren't allowed in sigs, period. I am no mod, but as a humble and loyal member of these boards, I'm sugesting you reduce the size of that avatar to at least 80x80 and get rid of that sig pic, otherwise EX'll do it for you. One would think you'd read the rules before registering.

[Chaos Saiyajin]

Blazin;' just broke every rule except for civility and grammar...HOLY SHIT!

What about those women in Roshi's porn magazines?

And you also forgot the women in Bulma's father's magazines.

Damn it! Happy New Year everyone! Try not to die!

[BlaZin]

Hey, Blazin, we're not allowed to have avatars that exceed an 80x80 size, and pics aren't allowed in sigs, period. I am no mod, but as a humble and loyal member of these boards, I'm sugesting you reduce the size of that avatar to at least 80x80 and get rid of that sig pic, otherwise EX'll do it for you. One would think you'd read the rules before registering.

Thanks, and though it has already been made aware to me and already taken care of, the problem is no more. And I do usually read rules before I post, I just didn't think anything of the colored font or pictures in my sig. I could have sworn I saw someone with a bigger avatar then 80x80 somewhere?? This place is like a nazi camp lol, I guess VegettoEX is still the wonderful hardass I've come to like.

Edit: Nope guess I didn't. Someone should disable the html code option in user's profiles then so it doesn't happen again, future reference. I also fixed some capitalization as pointed out to me.

[Conan the SSJ]

thanks, and though it has already been made aware to me and already taken care of, the problem is no more. And I do usually read rules before I post, I just didn't think anything of the colored font or pictures in muh sig. I could have sworn I saw someone with a bigger avatar then 80x80 and a image in someones sig somewhere?? this place is like a nazi camp lol, I guess VegettoEX is still the wonderful hardass I've come to like.

Alright, now you're just plain acting like that moron, dragonbox2006. Your first post in this thread had perfect grammer, yet this latest one... c'mon, man. You forgot your capitalizations, starting sentences with "And", you're not making too great an impression. I hate to sound like a mod to someone who seems cool, but please get your act together, and this is just coming from me. You don't wanna see EX's attitude if you continue on a downward spiral. Sorry if I'm coming off as harsh, just trying to make sure you know how things are around here.

[BlaZin]

^Its cool and no I'm no moron. I went back and fixed all my posts. The first rule concerning grammar, I guess I took too lightly of it. I didn't know I needed absolute perfection lol. Let's just call it a bad morning start, don't worry I'm learning and catching on. I realize now this place isn't something to take so carelessly.

[Duo]

Now please, let's forget this whole thing and get back on track.

I think Freeza was actually trying to make himself less malicious by downgrading in form, so that he could better rule and not just kill things. Made him a better leader.

[BlaZin]

^Yeah I agree with your theory. When Freeza transformed it did seem his nature became more destructive and careless. But another big issue would be the amount of energy he has to put out and use to be in those transformed states. So like someone earlier compared them to the Saiyan transformations, just like the Saiyans, they can’t stay in their powered up forms forever. It takes to much energy to stay in those forms for a long period of time. The strain on their body would be great and it would shorten their life span as the Old Kai claimed. What contradicts this is that we see Freeza in hell in his final form in many occasions. So when one is dead, they use less energy and are better able to conserve, use energy because it takes less to do so in let’s say, a transformed state. The body doesn’t require as much. So I guess a number of things can come into play, like Freeza's race, special abilities acquired or born into that would cause him to be able to adapt like so.

[Dayspring]

Another possibility could be that it saves energy, something Freeza claims to be the case, which might be the reason why fourth form Freeza, upon transforming, was only half as strong as his maximum. If this is the case, I feel he'd always be the small, skinny Freeza at max if he always remained in fourth form.

Only half? He was using like...less than 5% of his power then he first transformed. His Final Form max is like...dozens times more powerful than his third form.

He was using half of his fourth form's strength when first transformed into the final form.

[BlaZin]

^Didn't Freeza power up to half his max a little later on? I don't think he just started out with half.

[Dayspring]

^Didn't Freeza power up to half his max a little later on? I don't think he just started out with half.

His fourth form, upon transformation, was at half his total strength. Since the daizenshuu gave his PL for that strength level and for at max, fan-PL sections calculated what his PL would be at for 66.6% and 33.3% for some bizarre reason.

[Eclipse]

^Didn't Freeza power up to half his max a little later on? I don't think he just started out with half.

His fourth form, upon transformation, was at half his total strength. Since the daizenshuu gave his PL for that strength level and for at max, fan-PL sections calculated what his PL would be at for 66.6% and 33.3% for some bizarre reason.

Ahh....I too thought Freeza did not start out with half his max until he stated so...
Besides, strangely, I thought he didn't power up to 70% until after Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan.

[Socar15]

His fourth form, upon transformation, was at half his total strength.

Whether he was actually at 50% when he first transformed is debatable, however it is pretty clear that when he first transformed, he was actually only using a fraction of that power (we just don't know if he was holding back energy, effort or both). We don't actually see him use his 50% power until after the fight against Goku is well underway, and we see him concentrate for a bit, which then Goku realizes Freeza wasn't bluffing.

[Magica]

A friend of mine pointed this out a couple years back, that some of the characters always land right foot first after flying.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Goku also used it to knock back Jeice & Burter.

Goku uses this against Vegeta when using the Kaio-ken, Gohan used it when thwarting the bank robbers in Satan city, and many other occasions...

Hence why I said that...

One thing that got me is that Goku called an exchange he had with Freeza usage of "Kiai'" and yet they didn't yell...though I prefer to assume that was Viz's error. Maybe I'll ask Julian.

I believe gestures and glares also count as kiai.