Can characters be revived more than once by Porunga?

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Can characters be revived more than once by Porunga?

Post by Goten Forever » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:41 pm

I was thinking of Kuririn - then realised that he dies three times. He is revived once by Earth's dragonballs, then twice by the Namekian dragonballs.

How?

I'm sure he isn't the only example either.

EDIT: He is revived AGAIN in GT by Shenlong, but this is hardly relevant considering all the plotholes in GT.
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Post by Rocketman » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:45 pm

Dende says at the end of the Namek arc that their DBs can revive anybody an unlimited number of times unless they died naturally.

You could almost hear the remaining tension in the story snap.

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Post by Goten Forever » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:21 pm

So why didn't they travel to New Planet Namek and revive Goku?
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Post by FindKenshi » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:08 pm

Goten Forever wrote:So why didn't they travel to New Planet Namek and revive Goku?
Because Goku asked them not to...

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Post by Goten Forever » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:14 pm

OH YEAH
*facepalm*

...Any explanation for Shenlong reviving Kuririn twice?
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Post by NANLIT » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:23 pm

Goten Forever wrote:OH YEAH
*facepalm*

...Any explanation for Shenlong reviving Kuririn twice?
Special one time service as it would be the last wish he'd be making in a long, long time?

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Post by Goten Forever » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:43 pm

Rocketman wrote:Dende says at the end of the Namek arc that their DBs can revive anybody an unlimited number of times unless they died naturally.

You could almost hear the remaining tension in the story snap.
So Goku wasn't revived in Trunks's timeline because he died of a heart disease.

Wonder why nobody put a machine gun to his head.
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Post by NANLIT » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:47 pm

Goten Forever wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Dende says at the end of the Namek arc that their DBs can revive anybody an unlimited number of times unless they died naturally.

You could almost hear the remaining tension in the story snap.
So Goku wasn't revived in Trunks's timeline because he died of a heart disease.

Wonder why nobody put a machine gun to his head.
They don't know where New Namek is to even attempt to revive Goku a second time in the scenario you just mentioned.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:51 pm

Goten Forever wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Dende says at the end of the Namek arc that their DBs can revive anybody an unlimited number of times unless they died naturally.

You could almost hear the remaining tension in the story snap.
So Goku wasn't revived in Trunks's timeline because he died of a heart disease.

Wonder why nobody put a machine gun to his head.
A machine gun wouldn't kill Gokuu when we've seen that he can bounce off bullets and even stronger attacks from guys that can destroy planets in one blast. And even if you tried that, chances are it would be like the Great Elder situation.

Well, they don't know where New Namek is anyway. Gokuu could try like he did in the Cell arc, but he'd probably take the same mentality as he did after the Cell Games (wishing to remain dead to check out challenges in the afterlife).
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Post by Bussani » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:23 pm

Goten Forever wrote:So Goku wasn't revived in Trunks's timeline because he died of a heart disease.
He probably wasn't revived because they had no idea where New Namek was and may not have had a way to get there if they did. Also, we have no idea if a heart disease counts as a "natural death" to Shenlong and Porunga. I'd argue that a contagious disease is something that attacks your body and kills you, which isn't any more a natural death than being eaten by a lion.
Wonder why nobody put a machine gun to his head.
Are you saying dying from machine gun fire is a natural death?
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Post by Goten Forever » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:25 pm

I said 'machine gun' because it ISN'T a natural death. xD
They don't know where new Namek is? Surely they could have found out through Kaio-sama?
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:28 pm

Goten Forever wrote:They don't know where new Namek is? Surely they could have found out through Kaio-sama?
That would mean Kaiou-sama would be interfering in natural order and whatnot. I mean, yeah, he did it in the Freeza arc, but perhaps that was because Gokuu was his student and/or if they angered Freeza, that could have dangerous repercussions on numerous galaxies, and then the blame could be put on him for not doing something about it or encouraging them inadvertently or something.

Besides, as I said, Gokuu would probably take the same mentality he did in the Cell arc.
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Post by Bussani » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:30 pm

Goten Forever wrote:They don't know where new Namek is? Surely they could have found out through Kaio-sama?
How would you contact Kaio when Goku and Kami are both dead?
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Post by Gonstead » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:05 am

Bussani wrote:
Goten Forever wrote:They don't know where new Namek is? Surely they could have found out through Kaio-sama?
How would you contact Kaio when Goku and Kami are both dead?
After Goku and before the Androids, they still had Kami.
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Post by Monkey D Goku » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:59 am

I think old age and heart disease fit in the same category. I mean isn't age technically making you weaker after you hit a certain number.
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Post by Bussani » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:20 am

Gonstead wrote:After Goku and before the Androids, they still had Kami.
That's true. They could even have used the Earth dragon balls to get to Namek, in that case.
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Post by Mystic Gohan » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:30 am

I always assumed that even if they could contact Kaio-sama to find out the coordinates of New Namek, they wouldn't have the technology to reach there. Recall, Dr. Brief needed goku's ship before he could make repairs. They probably don't have the neccessary parts either. IIRC, frieza's business is supposed to have superior technology right?

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Post by Perfect » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:34 am

Well Goku would have died of natural causes so they wouldn't be able to wish him back, and they had no knowledge of the Artificial Humans coming, so I'd imagine it all happened fairly abruptly. Meaning that there really wouldn't be ample time to do anything, at least not until enough was known about the situation, which Kami could have well been dead by.
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Post by Goten Forever » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:40 am

Mystic Gohan wrote:I always assumed that even if they could contact Kaio-sama to find out the coordinates of New Namek, they wouldn't have the technology to reach there. Recall, Dr. Brief needed goku's ship before he could make repairs. They probably don't have the neccessary parts either. IIRC, Freeza's business is supposed to have superior technology right?
Regarding the bit of filler we see during the Namek arc, he was capable of making another ship...in Toei's world.


What about Nappa's ship?

And surely if he's made a ship before he'll have noted down technology to develop and make another? I mean, Bulma learnt how to make Scouters.
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Post by Goten Forever » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:44 am

Perfect wrote:Well Goku would have died of natural causes so they wouldn't be able to wish him back, and they had no knowledge of the Artificial Humans coming, so I'd imagine it all happened fairly abruptly. Meaning that there really wouldn't be ample time to do anything, at least not until enough was known about the situation, which Kami could have well been dead by.
*cough*Machine Gun*cough*

But yeah, they probably wouldn't think of killing him themselves to make his death 'unnatural', like you said they would have been panicing almost.

Why did Piccolo have to go get himself killed?
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