Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the whole series?

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Re: Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the whole series?

Post by medama_oyaji » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:44 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Kai in my previous post.
Yeah, funny 'cause I totally forgot about Kai in my post as well! I've never seen Kai, except the first episode which I downloaded right after it first aired to see what it was like. It was fine, my thoughts were basically like, "Ok, I get it." and didn't feel the need to watch any more. Of course, now that I think about it, that first arc of Kai is the part that I've never seen in Japanese, so I guess that could be my opportunity, but I guess I prefer that original DBZ score, etc...

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Re: Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the whole series?

Post by Aoi » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:25 pm

Ironically, being such a hardcore fan, I never fully watched all of the original Dragon Ball; so I went out and bought each Blue Brick one by one. I absolutely adore it. The only arc that I have a bit of trouble with is the Red Ribbon Army arc (parts of it, although I loved the Upa/ Tao Pai Pai chapter, beautifully done). The 22nd Tenkaichi Boudokai was a work of art, having never seen it fully (an episode here or there in South America or when I was in Japan as a kid).

Right now, I'm in the Piccolo Daimao arc and loving it. I'm more than ever convinced that Toriyama is a genius. I can't put my finger on why it is though. I am sick of 99% of animes out there, especially Shonen. Dragon Ball always manages to take that extra step to separate itself from the rest. Always has and always will for me.

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Post by Corporate_Nothing » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:07 am

Aoi wrote:Ironically, being such a hardcore fan, I never fully watched all of the original Dragon Ball; so I went out and bought each Blue Brick one by one. I absolutely adore it. The only arc that I have a bit of trouble with is the Red Ribbon Army arc (parts of it, although I loved the Upa/ Tao Pai Pai chapter, beautifully done). The 22nd Tenkaichi Boudokai was a work of art, having never seen it fully (an episode here or there in South America or when I was in Japan as a kid).

Right now, I'm in the Piccolo Daimao arc and loving it. I'm more than ever convinced that Toriyama is a genius. I can't put my finger on why it is though. I am sick of 99% of animes out there, especially Shonen. Dragon Ball always manages to take that extra step to separate itself from the rest. Always has and always will for me.
The entirety of the 22nd Budokai up until the end of Dragon Ball is absolutely phenomenal, in my opinion. I watched that chunk of the series for the first time about a year ago, and read the manga equivalent for the first time about two weeks ago. Love it so much.

Also, is it really that big of a deal to call the original Japanese version a "dub?" I mean, they did technically DUB the original Japanese audio over the animation. It didn't just come into existence out of thin air.
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Re: Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the whole series?

Post by TripleRach » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:14 am

Corporate_Nothing wrote:Also, is it really that big of a deal to call the original Japanese version a "dub?" I mean, they did technically DUB the original Japanese audio over the animation. It didn't just come into existence out of thin air.
The issue (for me, at least) is that people seem to toss around the phrase "Japanese dub" as if it's just one of many different dubs. It undermines the fact that it was the original audio produced with the animation.
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Post by Attitudefan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:41 am

It wasn't "dubbed" at all. The voices were created before the animation so, in essence, it cannot be called a dub.
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Re: Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the whole series?

Post by oXdanXo » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:54 am

I've seen all the episodes, own all episodes, own all movies, yet to watch the 4 DragonBall ones all the way through (funimation release)

Still need the Japanese specials that haven't come out in the UK/USA
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Re: Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the whole series?

Post by Corporate_Nothing » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:45 am

TripleRach wrote:
Corporate_Nothing wrote:Also, is it really that big of a deal to call the original Japanese version a "dub?" I mean, they did technically DUB the original Japanese audio over the animation. It didn't just come into existence out of thin air.
The issue (for me, at least) is that people seem to toss around the phrase "Japanese dub" as if it's just one of many different dubs. It undermines the fact that it was the original audio produced with the animation.
I get what you're saying, surely there has to be a way to say it with more brevity, as opposed to "original Japanese version."
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Post by Attitudefan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:23 pm

Call it Dragonball Z.

Do you call the Simpson's, The English Dub of The Simpson's? No.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:26 pm

Attitudefan wrote:Call it Dragonball Z.

Do you call the Simpson's, The English Dub of The Simpson's? No.
No, because the voices were made before the animation. You apparently seem unaware that most Japanese animation is done before the voices, which is technically dubbing.

I don't like using the term "Japanese dub" because it implies that it's not the original version, but it's not really incorrect. Don't know why "Japanese version" is so much harder to say or type though. :?
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Post by Adamant » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:23 pm

Attitudefan wrote:It wasn't "dubbed" at all. The voices were created before the animation so, in essence, it cannot be called a dub.
The animation was created before the voices, so it was indeed dubbed.
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Post by Attitudefan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:27 pm

No it wasn't. Firstly, it would be hard to animate and time your animation BEFORE voice work (trust me)! Secondly, Nozawa stated this in the interview (indirectly but she did)
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Post by Attitudefan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:28 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:Call it Dragonball Z.

Do you call the Simpson's, The English Dub of The Simpson's? No.
No, because the voices were made before the animation. You apparently seem unaware that most Japanese animation is done before the voices, which is technically dubbing.

I don't like using the term "Japanese dub" because it implies that it's not the original version, but it's not really incorrect. Don't know why "Japanese version" is so much harder to say or type though. :?
That's what I'm saying!!!! Simpson's wasn't dubbed either so you WOULDN'T call it a dub!

Ugh...
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Post by Corporate_Nothing » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:30 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:Call it Dragonball Z.

Do you call the Simpson's, The English Dub of The Simpson's? No.
No, because the voices were made before the animation. You apparently seem unaware that most Japanese animation is done before the voices, which is technically dubbing.

I don't like using the term "Japanese dub" because it implies that it's not the original version, but it's not really incorrect. Don't know why "Japanese version" is so much harder to say or type though. :?
That's what I'm saying!!!! Simpson's wasn't dubbed either so you WOULDN'T call it a dub!

Ugh...
Attitudefan wrote:No it wasn't. Firstly, it would be hard to animate and time your animation BEFORE voice work (trust me)! Secondly, Nozawa stated this in the interview (indirectly but she did)
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Re: Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the whole series?

Post by Aoi » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:33 am

As I near the end of Season 4 of the Blue Bricks and got a preview (from a friend) of what I can expect from Season 5 (the last Tenkaichi Boudokai, the training, journey to hell, etc), I get the slight feeling that GT is really pointless.

I remember only tolerating GT because I had never really seen much of the original Dragon Ball. I figured: "Hey, this journey stuff is pretty different from "Z", I dig it" or even seeing Goku go to hell in GT I felt was kind of neat. It's incredible what a new perspective can do.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:30 am

I haven't seen all of the original Dragon Ball.
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Post by Son Satan » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:27 pm

Attitudefan wrote:No it wasn't. Firstly, it would be hard to animate and time your animation BEFORE voice work (trust me)!
Which is why the mouth flaps never match up perfectly, even in the Japanese version.
Secondly, Nozawa stated this in the interview (indirectly but she did)
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Post by Kaboom » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:54 pm

There's a lot of the original Dragon Ball anime that I still haven't seen, though it's mostly filler and stuff. As for DBZ, I probably haven't technically seen the entirety of the Garlic Jr. arc.
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Post by CaBrPi » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:18 pm

Kaboom wrote:There's a lot of the original Dragon Ball anime that I still haven't seen, though it's mostly filler and stuff. As for DBZ, I probably haven't technically seen the entirety of the Garlic Jr. arc.
You're not missing much.

I myself actually finished the Z anime in its entirety a few months ago, but I can't say for sure that I've seen all of GT. Working on it now, but... eesh...

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Post by Zarathustra » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:34 pm

I've seen all of Dragon Ball, Z and GT. I haven't watched all of Kai, though.

Seen all the Z and GT movies/specials, but I haven't seen any of the Dragon Ball "movies" - what's the common consensus about those?

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Post by PhoenixEX » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:04 am

I've actually neer seen the original Dragon Ball. I always told myself I would watch it when it came out on Bluray, but God knows when that will be. I saw the Dragon Ball remake movie though, but since i've never seen DB i can't say if they differ or not.
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