Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
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Eight-Star Dragon
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by Eight-Star Dragon » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:42 pm
You're right, I forgot about the part where Broli falls into the lava and Gohan thinks it's over.
Was it really important Gohan be Super Saiyan 1 just like Goku and Goten? I guess so. I was thinking "I'd prefer they [the animators] spoil SSJ2 Goku, and have both Goku and Gohan as Super Saiyan 2" but then I remembered SSJ2 Goku would probably beat Broli in about 3 seconds flat.
Oh, the irony. One of the few times Goku could actually plausibly beat the Big Bad with his Toei Punch, he doesn't. Maybe this is to compensate for movies 8 and 13?
At least we have a satisfactory answer for the SSJ1/SSJ2 debate in movie 10: He was in both forms over the course of the movie.
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Piccolo Daimao
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by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:45 pm
In-universe: after Broli's beat-up, he'd lost so much energy that he couldn't power up to SS2.
And Gokuu could've been SS2, but it doesn't really matter because either way, the triple Father-Son Kamehameha was supposed to finish off Broli, and even that may've been more than enough. SS2 could've just been part of the icing on the cake.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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DBZAOTA482
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by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:06 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Eight-Star Dragon wrote:So the animators were inconsistent in the movie itself? That's... great.
Well, yeah. It's Toei. They're cheap and lazy.
Can't say I disagree. And not only that, they're meanies.
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about
your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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SSJ2fosho
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by SSJ2fosho » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:36 pm
I'm pretty sure Gohan was just ssj since the manga had no sparks, and in that case Dabura is definately weaker than Perfect Cell because ssj Teen Gohan even had trouble with Perfect Cell and if Gohan got weaker over those 7 years and Dabura=Perfect Cell than Gohan would not be able to keep up with him like he did
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Kaboom
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by Kaboom » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:42 pm
We have threads on this topic more than often enough. We don't need to be bumping past ones that are over a year old.
