DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vortex)

[Gonstead]

At this rate, I bet kids will start losing interest in Kai on Toonzai now that it's repeating itself AGAIN.

[TheBlackPaladin]

At this rate, I bet kids will start losing interest in Kai on Toonzai now that it's repeating itself AGAIN.

That's certainly possible, but it might also RAISE interest because they will become so elated when new episodes come out. That's what happened while I was waiting for Season 3 to air on Cartoon Network as a kid.

[Super Sayian Prime]

At this rate, I bet kids will start losing interest in Kai on Toonzai now that it's repeating itself AGAIN.

Kai's repeat ratings are actually very steady, and solid. Obviously they'd be better with new episodes, but hey.

[dbboxkaifan]

At this rate, I bet kids will start losing interest in Kai on Toonzai now that it's repeating itself AGAIN.

4Kids needs time to do all the edits, i.e, remove blood, meanie script, halos, meat pieces, etc.

It'll be funny to see their edits.

They tried to give Gohan a "normal" eye and ended up being a special needs child.

[bkev]

I have to wonder if the network executives are just hesitant to air past the Namek saga at all. They ver well could have chosen to cut Kai off there due to content, though I should hope not.

[funrush]

Today they aired episodes 1 and 2... again. I wonder when they'll get new episodes, the series is long finished on Nicktoons.

[GotenDaisuki]

How long has it been since they aired a "new episode"?

[funrush]

How long has it been since they aired a "new episode"?

I'm thinking the May/June/July 2011 area.

[dbboxkaifan]

Luckily Toonzai got themselves the temporary replacement score for one of their episodes (or more, I dunno).

See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_2cXLr8MQI

What a shame Toonzai doesn't have all episodes from Saiyan to Freeza's arc.

[Pokewhiz7]

Apparently 4Kids! sold Yu-Gi-Oh!. Here's the sales agreements thing, but this part jumped out at me.

(ddd) “Library Assets” means (i) 26 episodes of Cubix; (ii) 52 episodes of Viva
Pinata; and (iii) 52 episodes of Dragon Ball Z, each episode of which is listed on Schedule
2.1(p).

I guess that explains no new episodes.

[dbboxkaifan]

Dragon Ball Z? Don't they mean Dragon Ball Z Kai?

52 more episodes of Z Kai? It doesn't add up, Kai ends with episode 97 (98 as a bonus).

If they're gonna toy around with the old DBZ dub it's gonna be hilarious.

[Pokewhiz7]

They mean the 52 that they already have.

[Akumaito Beam]

Man I hope Saban gets a wild hair up their ass and releases uncut Yugioh, if only to show how that Yugioh uncensored guy and his Hong Kong subtitles had no clue what they were talking about. If I never hear that wildly innacurate "Season 0" spheel again it will be too soon.

I find it hilarious that Saban has their old DBZ episodes again. I'm picturing a huge Acme machine that sends your garbage around the world for years only to bypass the dump and drop it back into your lap.

[Puto]

Man I hope Saban gets a wild hair up their ass and releases uncut Yugioh, if only to show how that Yugioh uncensored guy and his Hong Kong subtitles had no clue what they were talking about. If I never hear that wildly innacurate "Season 0" spheel again it will be too soon.

Don't suppose I should mention that 4Kids did indeed release uncut Yugioh on Hulu, but only 5D's and Zexal due to licensing issues with Yugi's VA.

[funrush]

Man I hope Saban gets a wild hair up their ass and releases uncut Yugioh, if only to show how that Yugioh uncensored guy and his Hong Kong subtitles had no clue what they were talking about. If I never hear that wildly innacurate "Season 0" spheel again it will be too soon.

Don't suppose I should mention that 4Kids did indeed release uncut Yugioh on Hulu, but only 5D's and Zexal due to licensing issues with Yugi's VA.

I hope Season 0 gets released, as that was my favorite season. Watching two people play card games every episode gets boring. That is why Season 0 was my favorite part of the manga.

[Puto]

What people call "Season 0" is an entirely different series, which wasn't even done by the same company. And since Toei don't have the rights to Yugioh anymore, that series will never, ever see the light of day again.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Dragon Ball Z? Don't they mean Dragon Ball Z Kai?

52 more episodes of Z Kai? It doesn't add up, Kai ends with episode 97 (98 as a bonus).

If they're gonna toy around with the old DBZ dub it's gonna be hilarious.

Well...I thought they meant Kai too...but apparently they don't mean Kai. According to this report on Anime News Network...

"The proposed sale also includes the sale of rights relating to the Dragon Ball Z series, including 52 episodes of the television show, as well as the company's rights relating to Dragon Ball Z Kai. The closing date for the sale described in the agreement is June 30, 2012."

The other interesting thing to note is that, while nothing has been finalized just yet, the new company who will likely own the rights, a company called KidsCo Media, appears to be another front for Saban. So Saban will soon own "Power Rangers," "Yu-Gi-Oh," and...somewhat ironically...a few episodes of DBZ. Again.

I wish I could be excited about this, but I'm not. I would have loved uncut dubs of Yu-Gi-Oh (including the nine-episode one that 4Kids produced many years ago), which is why I was hoping FUNimation or Viz would get it. However, having 4Kids own it still wasn't terrible, because a few years ago they began releasing the subtitled version on Hulu. With 4Kids, we at least had a way to watch the subtitled version. I have no idea if KidsCo is going to do the same, but if Saban's track record is anything to go by...then I think we just lost the only legal way of watching subtitled versions of some shows.

[Hades]

I thought that Saban had gone under a few years ago.

[dbboxkaifan]

Doesn't Saban own DBZ Ocean Dub?

[VegettoEX]

Doesn't Saban own DBZ Ocean Dub?

No. Saban was merely the syndication partner to work with networks to get the show on the air. FUNimation has always been the company in exclusive control over the anime since 1994.

Saban made certain requests in terms of editing before they would agree to sell the show to networks (and obviously their ties with Shuki Levy came into play in terms of music production), but it's not as if they actually produced the show themselves -- it was always FUNimation.

"The Saban dub" and "the Ocean dub" are misleading, almost-meaningless categorizations because it was always FUNimation in charge. Saban is not even directly credited for anything:



Their (Saban's) own logo/splash may have played after an episode aired through its entire credits back in 1996-1998, but I don't remember for sure. Regardless, they don't "own" the show. We don't know what their contract allowed for, especially past 1998 when the show moved to Toonami, but even that's a confusing situation -- there was a short period of time when local channels started playing the first two seasons again after it got popular on Toonami, but it never moved past those two seasons (since FUNimation obviously produced "season three" onward in-house with no involvement from Saban and struck their own deal with Cartoon Network).