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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Gonstead » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:15 pm

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Gonstead wrote:I'd even be fine if they were simply the voice-only masters of the series or movies. Then that way they would be easier to transfer over to voice-less footage.
I was wondering about that, too. I think it's a stretch that FUNimation would do that but, in theory, if it's dialogue, it could be synced to the footage.
Unless they were edited, since I remember an instance of a scene removed in the first movie where Bulma shows her panties but instead as an edit they just cut the scene entirely with Master Roshi just asking for a kiss, then it cuts to the scene of I-forget-his-name looking through binoculars.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:18 pm

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Gonstead wrote:I'd even be fine if they were simply the voice-only masters of the series or movies. Then that way they would be easier to transfer over to voice-less footage.
I was wondering about that, too. I think it's a stretch that FUNimation would do that but, in theory, if it's dialogue, it could be synced to the footage.
Unless they were edited, since I remember an instance of a scene removed in the first movie where Bulma shows her panties but instead as an edit they just cut the scene entirely with Master Roshi just asking for a kiss, then it cuts to the scene of I-forget-his-name looking through binoculars.
True but don't forget that some of us have WillieD7's rip of the movies dub which can be used as a reference to edit out the unused footage from the DBOX masters (if the audio is from the movies that is), and for the part's of Movie 1's end and the start of movie 3 he didn't get there's always the Zero Y el Dragon Magico footage that we can use for reference to fill in the missing gaps. If it's episode audio then we should be able to use the spanish HG dub as reference If we canfind the full episodes that is.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Gonstead » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:37 pm

True, but I was speaking from a Funimation perspective on just how the hell they would even include it on a Dragon Ball release unless they edited the footage themselves.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by takarajima » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:46 pm

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Ashura » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:06 pm

Takarajima, whooooa, that's way better quality than anything we have so far. We're still missing pretty much all the same portions I outlined in all my own posts, so that is AMAZING news to be sure.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by DerekPadula » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:28 pm

That's awesome, Takarajima. Where did you find it?

And does anybody know how he can digitally record a copy to share with me or Ashura so we can get it to Harmony Gold or FUNimation?
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:58 pm

takarajima wrote:Are there still any parts of the compilation movie that you guys haven't scrounged up yet?

I managed to get ahold of a fairly good copy. Haven't watched it through yet, but it appears to be a recording straight through from the opening scene of movie 1 (with the announcer) to the end credits of movie 3, complete with commercials. Sometimes it crackles or drops out, but for the most part the hi-fi track is playable.
Woot nice find takarajima think you could let me make the backup for HG/FUNimation I just got a cool little toy in the mail today and it make's almost if not perfect 1:1 digitized copies of VHS tapes, i'll even pay for postage both ways if you let me make the backup for them.
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:08 pm

And yet another example of why I love this community. This is so great.

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Post by superrayman3 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:16 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:And yet another example of why I love this community. This is so great.
I agree First we learn that FUNi actually want's to use the HG dub material to market the next DB release, and as if that wasn't cool enough takarajima has found a possibly complete tape containing the HG movie dub, lady luck seems to be really shining down blessings on this project lately.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:27 pm

I can't believe how fortunate things continue to be. When all's said and done, the encapsulated history of this undertaking would make a great podcast episode or feature article for Daizex (well, actually, given the recent name change of this site, would the abbreviated form of Kanzenshuu EX be Kanzex?).
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:28 pm

There is no "EX" in the name of the new site. We will be using Kanzenshuu -- the full name of the site -- for all descriptions, branding, marketing, etc.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:32 pm

Yeah, sorry, I noticed that about five minutes after I posted. Old habits die hard, I suppose.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by DerekPadula » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:52 pm

I plan on writing a blog post about it once the next step is undertaken by Tommy and we find out what's on the tape. Because at that point it would just be a matter of time until FUNimation used it.

I'd call it "The Harmony Gold Dub Explained," and go into a full detailed history of the dub, all the way up to today and this story's unfolding.

Of course I suppose I could always write it sooner with a cliffhanger ending, but I don't have the time right now anyway. I think the timing may work out better later on.

Mike can do one from his perspective as well, through the podcast. That would be fun since he built the website that made this community and the recent events possible.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:48 am

DerekPadula wrote:I plan on writing a blog post about it once the next step is undertaken by Tommy and we find out what's on the tape. Because at that point it would just be a matter of time until FUNimation used it.
That's true especially if we can get a digitized copy of takarajimas's tape added to the mix.
DerekPadula wrote:I'd call it "The Harmony Gold Dub Explained," and go into a full detailed history of the dub, all the way up to today and this story's unfolding.
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DerekPadula wrote:Of course I suppose I could always write it sooner with a cliffhanger ending, but I don't have the time right now anyway. I think the timing may work out better later on.
Yeah most people hate cliffhanger endings.
DerekPadula wrote:Mike can do one from his perspective as well, through the podcast. That would be fun since he built the website that made this community and the recent events possible.
I agree I would love to see a podcast episode related to the HG dub and FUNimation's view on the idea of using the dub to market the next DB release.
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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:52 am

If and when this eventually amounts to anything, I'm totally down for having you on the show to talk about it all, Derek.
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Post by DerekPadula » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:57 pm

VegettoEX wrote:If and when this eventually amounts to anything, I'm totally down for having you on the show to talk about it all, Derek.
My mind is blown. That would be awesome, Mike.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Ashura » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:44 pm

That would be completely awesome. :)

I think this dub, what's going on with it, what was edited, and just the history of it is worth talking about on the Podcast even if Funimation does nothing with the tapes they get from HG and from us, though. That, and maybe a bit about the Dr. Slump pilot, which is kind of the precursor to this.
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Post by medama_oyaji » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:42 am

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VegettoEX wrote:If and when this eventually amounts to anything, I'm totally down for having you on the show to talk about it all, Derek.
My mind is blown. That would be awesome, Mike.

Thank you.
I would love to hear that episode. I didn't know how much of this has been touched on the show since I've only been listening for a year or two, but I think this would make an excellent topic.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by atm5508 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:13 pm

I hope we get to hear a podcast about this, that would be a very interesting topic.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:56 am

DerekPadula wrote:Good news, everyone. FUNimation has said yes to accepting the tape!
So, think next you can team up with kei17 in an attempt to convince FUNimation to accept the high quality TV recording audio for Z for any potential future release? That would be real swell of ya! :lol:

But really, great work! That's definitely something I wasn't expecting to happen, and all of the work you've put towards this alone is commendable. I don't really think there's anything left t-...
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