Unpopular DB opinions

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

bulma?
blooma?
burma?

The first one is by far the most common because it appears on the character's clothing in the early parts of the manga/anime. To have the character's name written one way and pronounced another would've been too confusing for those just getting into the series and so she is called "Bulma" in the English dub. As a result, some fans of the Japanese version have taken to calling her by the second variant you mentioned, notwithstanding the creator's preference and the fact that about 90% of the fan base -- English-speaking or not -- know her as "Bulma".

I tend to avoid these lesser-known variants, however well they "clarify" the pun (though I'm not even convinced the average fan even knows about them), because they simply aren't well known. It's rather like using the word "imbibe" instead of "drink" -- the former is obscure, while the latter is universally known among English speakers.

[Bussani]

They did, but I don`t think even that first one in the manga was merely practise..but I guess we can agree to disagree here.

He literally says, "Lemme just practice a little," and he doesn't aim it at Chiaotzu or anything, so I don't know what else it could have been.

Chaotzu survived the the brunt of attack and was still in the game because the Wave wasn`t powerful enough. Chaotzu flying clearly gave him a good range advantage but as Roshi said, if the wave was perfected/stronger, it would have knocked him off the ring whether he could fly or not.

At least, that is what I read from Roshi.

Kame-sennin said it was because the attack wasn't "properly taught". I don't think that says anything about Kuririn's actual strength--just that Yamcha's had more practice with the Kamehameha. Maybe that puts Yamcha ahead in a less literal sense than I was thinking.

Well, in physical terms, they are, Yamucha was seemingly fighting at a faster pace against a faster opponent.

I don't think we can gauge speed from a manga. All we know is that Kuririn was so fast that only Tenshinhan could see him at one point. I think Yamcha and Tenshinhan's fight might just feel faster because Tenshinhan actually engages in an exchange of blows, whereas Chiaotzu just floats too far out of the ring for anyone who can't fly to engage him, effectively bringing the fight to a halt.

Anyway, I'm not saying you're wrong. It's possible that Yamcha was a bit ahead. But I still don't think the matches are comparable, and if we switched the opponents around (Yamcha vs Chiaotzu, Kuririn vs Tenshinhan), I'm not convinced we'd see much of a difference in terms of strength, speed, etc. A Kamehameha from Yamcha may have beaten Chiaotzu where Kuririn's failed, however.

[Insertclevername]

Here is one...I don't mind Stephanie Nadolny as Gohan.... *Gulp*

I can agree to this buuuuuut.... I still think Colleen and Saffron are better though.

Yeah same, they have more of a childish vibe to them that Stephanie lacks IMO. However, I think Nadolny is quite fitting as the android arc Gohan, since her rough voice kind of portrays puberty as Gohan is about to reach his teens.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Here is one...I don't mind Stephanie Nadolny as Gohan.... *Gulp*

I can agree to this buuuuuut.... I still think Colleen and Saffron are better though.

Yeah same, they have more of a childish vibe to them that Stephanie lacks IMO. However, I think Nadolny is quite fitting as the android arc Gohan, since her rough voice kind of portrays puberty as Gohan is about to reach his teens.

Even adolescent boys don't sound that raspy. I should know, I'm one myself and hang around them all day.

Colleen Clinkenbeard's probably my favourite Gohan. I haven't heard much of Henderson or Michaels, so I can't make the best verdict, although I do recall Henderson sounding pretty appropriate.

[OutlawTorn]

Yeah same, they have more of a childish vibe to them that Stephanie lacks IMO. However, I think Nadolny is quite fitting as the android arc Gohan, since her rough voice kind of portrays puberty as Gohan is about to reach his teens.

Even adolescent boys don't sound that raspy. I should know, I'm one myself and hang around them all day.

Wow, this is ironic. When the issue of Masako Nozawa voicing Goku is brought up, people jump to her defense saying stuff about personality and character, yet it's Nadolny who gets hit with the whole "realism" angle?

Voices aren't exactly the same for everybody. All you need to do is search on YouTube and you can see videos of young kids who have raspy voices, just like people constantly bring up Michael Jackson or Mike Tyson as grown men with higher pitched voices to defend Nozawa's Goku.

[penguintruth]

Goku's a complete different case than any other character, though. A big part of him is personality overriding physicality. Not to mention, there's a natural evolution to Nozawa's Goku voice.

Gohan is a cute, sheltered, polite little kid. Naldony made him sound way too raspy and his laugh was forced-sounding. Plus, to be honest, she just isn't as great an actress as Clinkenbeard.

Though I think her younger Goku is mostly okay (the voice itself, that is), because the rasp gives him a wild edge.


I don't know if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but I think Brad Swaile is just as good an older Gohan as Kyle Hebert.

[Rory]

I don't know if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but I think Brad Swaile is just as good an older Gohan as Kyle Hebert.

I think he's better, I love his awkwardness.

[Akumaito Beam]

-I really dislike the Freeza/Garlic Jr. orange brick redubs. Having modern voices mixed in with old voices sounds incredibly awkward so I prefer to watch the singles.

-I find watching the Saban-era dub for the Saiyan and Namek sagas and then the Funi dub from Ginyu onwards is the best way to watch the show in English. Of course, if you're feeling frisky you can watch the Funi redub of the first two arcs after Boo.

-I prefer Budokai 1 and Budokai 2 over Budokai 3 and IW, I really dislike how 90 percent of the latter's battles are teleportation struggles.

-Dale Kelly was my favorite Funi Ginyu.

[Gaffer Tape]

-I find watching the Saban-era dub for the Saiyan and Namek sagas and then the Funi dub from Ginyu onwards is the best way to watch the show in English.

Agreed. I mean, that is the original dub configuration, so, yes, if you want to watch it in English, that is its purest presentation. Not that I would...

[Pokewhiz7]

If I were to watch it in English, I'd rather watch it with all the redubbed voices and things, (Brice Armstrong as Ginyu, etc.). If I'm watching a dub, it's not exactly pure to begin with. I'd rather have the more tolerable version.

[OzzyApu]

How unpopular is it to not like Raditz being Goku's brother? There's really nothing to call for it. Just a douchebag character that gets thrown out in 3 (Kai) to 5 / 6 (Z) episodes and is pratically never mentioned thereafter. Has no real reason to be Goku's brother or Bardock's son. Another slab of not necessarily poor writing, but not really thinking ahead with the idea. The shock factor wears off immediately after he's toasted by Piccolo. He could have just been a Saiyan merc that knew Bardock or something, and it would have sufficed. If you want to go further, have Vegeta know of Bardock to confirm Goku's Saiyan identity later, as well.

[Akumaito Beam]

If I were to watch it in English, I'd rather watch it with all the redubbed voices and things, (Brice Armstrong as Ginyu, etc.). If I'm watching a dub, it's not exactly pure to begin with. I'd rather have the more tolerable version.

I guess our definition of tolerable differs. Hearing modern Vegeta next to "AAAAAAAWWWNOOOOOOO!!! YOU DIDN'T HAAAVE TO DO THAAT!!!!" and hearing the best the Funi cast has to offer (until Kai) lead into the worst and then watching the voices evolve into the best again jars me out of the experience way more than just watching the show as originally presented.

[Pokewhiz7]

If I were to watch it in English, I'd rather watch it with all the redubbed voices and things, (Brice Armstrong as Ginyu, etc.). If I'm watching a dub, it's not exactly pure to begin with. I'd rather have the more tolerable version.

I guess our definition of tolerable differs. Hearing modern Vegeta next to "AAAAAAAWWWNOOOOOOO!!! YOU DIDN'T HAAAVE TO DO THAAT!!!!" or hearing the best the Funi cast has to offer (until Kai) into the worst and then watching the voices evolve into the best again jars me out of the experience way more than just watching the show as originally presented.

Hmm, maybe I should rephrase that. The Ocean dub for the early episodes, yes, but for the episodes after that, all the redubs done for the orange bricks.

[Akumaito Beam]

Hmm, maybe I should rephrase that. The Ocean dub for the early episodes, yes, but for the episodes after that, all the redubs done for the orange bricks.

Yeah, but even then you still have stuff like deep redub Vegeta in the Freeza saga suddenly turning into Brian Drummond impression Vegeta after the Garlic Jr. arc and Tenkaichi 3 level Sonny Straight Kuririn and Naldony Gohan suddenly reading their lines a little more off.

Then there's things like the redub track being pre-edit recordings, which means sometimes off music mixes, altered lines (usually mistakes) and voice filters being gone (which could be seen as an improvement with the exception of Super Boo sounding like redub Raditz.) For my money the old dub is already riddled with inconsistencies and the redub just adds more.

[OutlawTorn]

Goku's a complete different case than any other character, though. A big part of him is personality overriding physicality. Not to mention, there's a natural evolution to Nozawa's Goku voice.

Gohan is a cute, sheltered, polite little kid. Naldony made him sound way too raspy and his laugh was forced-sounding. Plus, to be honest, she just isn't as great an actress as Clinkenbeard.

I, personally, think it's a hypocritical position to say "x-standard" applied to this character and this character only, and "y-standard" applies to everyone else we see fit. But, like I said, you can YouTube videos of small kids with raspy voices, does that mean they aren't cute or polite just because they don't have a cutesy voice?

That doesn't mean, however, that anybody has to like the voices, but arguments lose all credibility when people argue until their blue in the face why Goku's Japanese voice shouldn't match his physical stature, while Gohan's English voice is all wrong because no young boy would sound like him. What it comes down to is some people hate Goku's Japanese voice and some hate young Gohan's English voice. Double standards, though, are still double standards.

[Hellspawn28]

I found Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins worst then DBE. At least DBE had some fun moments to watch while DB: The Magic Begins was painful to sit through. It makes Birdemic look like a good movie in compression.

[Nikkolas]

There is one thing that bugs me about Nadolny. Her Goku and her Gohan are clearly different and distinguishable voices. If you just played a line from Dragonball and one from DBZ, I could still easily tell which is Goku and which is Gohan.

But then in Budokai Tenkaichi 3, they sound exactly the same. It is really weird and it's why I don't have them fight each other.

[The Time Traveller]

I like Dragon Ball Evolution...

[Hades]

I don't think that Nadolny's Gohan was as apocalyptically bad as people here make it out to be. Yes, it had a lot of problems, but I think they are somewhat exaggerated. On the flipside, I think Colleen Clinkenbeard is overrated, seeing as people blindly worship her Gohan, which has problems of its own.

[MCDaveG]

Only US dub voice I ever liked was Kaioshin