Why do the d-box the movies look better then the tv series?

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Re: Why do the d-box the movies look better then the tv seri

Post by dprez » Sun May 06, 2012 1:32 am

Pokewhiz7 wrote:
dprez wrote:Interesting. I didn't know this. Being movies and all it does make sense though. Makes me wonder how these recent movie packs stack up against the Dragon Boxes and other Dragon Ball home releases in terms of picture quality, since the original movie footage ( Japanese Movie Box ) is so much better than the Dragon Ball Z Dragon Box quality.

This really makes me hope for a Dragon Box Z: The Movies.
Rather good, though there's still some issues with a bit of lost detail due to brightness/contrast manipulation.
Nice. It should be well worth picking up these movie packs so I can enjoy these what if? side stories for the first time in ten or so years. O, how I would cherish an american Dragon Box release for the Z movies.

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Re: Why do the d-box the movies look better then the tv seri

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 06, 2012 1:37 am

Pokewhiz7 wrote:Oh wow, that's not nice. I'd take the double feature over the single, although the colors are definitely not one of its strong points.
Yeah, I might feel the same way, but color is pretty important to me so I'm kinda torn.

Here's a comparison with the single included:

Single:
Image

Double Feature:
Image

Dragon Box:
Image

Also, even though it's only for a few shots, movie 3 has some overly bright scenes:

Single:
Image

Double Feature:
Image

I feel though, that it's not often enough to dissuade me from the footage, unlike movies 1 and 6 which were too bright most of the time.
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Re: Why do the d-box the movies look better then the tv seri

Post by dprez » Sun May 06, 2012 1:39 am

I was thinking to my self that I prefer the single version much better, then I see that Dragon Box footage and am blown away. BEAutiful.

Double Feature's colors seam way off.

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Post by son veku » Sun May 06, 2012 1:42 am

what movie is your avatar from metal

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Post by Gonstead » Sun May 06, 2012 1:43 am

son veku wrote:what movie is your avatar from metal
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Re: Why do the d-box the movies look better then the tv seri

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 06, 2012 1:44 am

dprez wrote:I was thinking to my self that I prefer the single version much better, then I see that Dragon Box footage and am blown away. BEAutiful.
I think universally the singles are decent, except for movies 12 and 13, which have really nasty colors, and seemingly even worse encoding than usual, resulting in macro-blocking during scenes that have hardly anything happening. Outside of two or so of the singles, I think the Double Features range from noticeable improvement in most ways, to vast improvement.

Me, I'm waiting for a Dragon Box movie release, but I'm only going to wait so long. It may be sooner, but if there's no announcement by perhaps the end of next year, or if we get an original Dragon Ball Dragon Box next, I'm going to get the movie packs, as many of them are still a big improvement even if I prefer a couple of the singles. I'm not throwing out the singles though, as even for the ones that I prefer the Double Features over, I still want the alternate 4x3 aspect ratio.
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun May 06, 2012 1:47 am

As for my Blu-ray question, I did look at Blu-ray.com and Tanooki's caps, and I found one that matched up. It's not the same exact frame, but it should be close enough, or at least good for comparing the background.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screensho ... position=5
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6858 ... 6206_o.png
And I don't know any site that will host a lossless, 1080p image, but I will just say that the BD is noticeably sharper than the double feature, and a bit more than the Dragon Box. Though, I'd still take the Dragon Box over the BD, because of the better colors, none of the lost detail, vastly better audio, and the original title card/credits. (That, and the Blu-rays are a bit too expensive for my tastes.)

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 06, 2012 1:54 am

I don't know... I kinda think the background on the Blu-ray looks like an oil painting. :|
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun May 06, 2012 1:55 am

Metalwario64 wrote:I don't know... I kinda think the background on the Blu-ray looks like an oil painting. :|
The background, yes. I was referring more to Kuririn's outline.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 06, 2012 1:58 am

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Metalwario64 wrote:I don't know... I kinda think the background on the Blu-ray looks like an oil painting. :|
The background, yes. I was referring more to Kuririn's outline.
The line-art's pretty much intact on the movie 3 Double Feature. The noise reduction took noticeable detail out of the backgrounds though.
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Post by son veku » Sun May 06, 2012 1:59 am

Dragon box
singles
double features

The singles just look closer to dragon box quality
The double features look like OB's 7-9

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun May 06, 2012 10:05 am

son veku wrote:Dragon box
singles
double features

The singles just look closer to dragon box quality
The double features look like OB's 7-9
Colours/Quality to Dragon Box - Singles
Aspect Ratio to Dragon Box - Double Features (16:9)

The DF's are basically the Orange Bricks of the DBZ films.
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Post by DHM211 » Sun May 06, 2012 10:10 am

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Post by son veku » Sun May 06, 2012 2:16 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
son veku wrote:Dragon box
singles
double features

The singles just look closer to dragon box quality
The double features look like OB's 7-9
Colours/Quality to Dragon Box - Singles
Aspect Ratio to Dragon Box - Double Features (16:9)

The DF's are basically the Orange Bricks of the DBZ films.
Why does everybody want these so bad?
Is it because of the packaging?

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun May 06, 2012 2:19 pm

Not just because of the packaging, but the quality is brilliant.

The Double Features best 'thing' about it is the design of the volumes and being steelbooks.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun May 06, 2012 2:51 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Colours/Quality to Dragon Box - Singles
What?! Since when where the singles DBox quality?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun May 06, 2012 3:18 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:Colours/Quality to Dragon Box - Singles
What?! Since when where the singles DBox quality?
I didn't say that, the colours and quality is a bit more closer than the DFs.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun May 06, 2012 3:26 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:I didn't say that, the colours and quality is a bit more closer than the DFs.
The Singles' quality is shit compared to DBoxes. The DF's quality is closer to the DBoxes, though the colors are off.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by DHM211 » Sun May 06, 2012 3:43 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:I didn't say that, the colours and quality is a bit more closer than the DFs.
The Singles' quality is shit compared to DBoxes. The DF's quality is closer to the DBoxes, though the colors are off.
I agree but if you look at the remastered movie 5,7,9,11,12 and 13 they look just like there dragon box counter parts. Without the grain that is
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun May 06, 2012 3:48 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:I didn't say that, the colours and quality is a bit more closer than the DFs.
The Singles' quality is shit compared to DBoxes. The DF's quality is closer to the DBoxes, though the colors are off.
By the screen comparisons, the Singles looked better to me than the DFs.

Bring out the Dragon Box the Movies, already, FUNimation. :|
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