Opinions on the English voices of the Ginyu Force.

[Attitudefan]

I don't understand the huge Brice Armstrong worshipping going on here... Him as Ginyu was weak man! They used all of Dale Kelly's screams in the dub everytime Ginyu was fighting or powering up! He was just to monotone. In the games he was somewhat better.

I love Dale Kelly's CHANGE NOWW!!!!!!!

[jjgp1112]

I really like Jeice's voice in Kai. Sabat's voice just sounds like an American guy doing a cliched Australian imitation, while his Kai voice sounds natural.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I don't understand the huge Brice Armstrong worshipping going on here... Him as Ginyu was weak man! They used all of Dale Kelly's screams in the dub everytime Ginyu was fighting or powering up! He was just to monotone. In the games he was somewhat better.

I love Dale Kelly's CHANGE NOWW!!!!!!!

I don't understand how anyone can like Kelly, but each to their own. I don't think Armstrong was monotone. Try listening to Elliott as an alternative, who's very similar to Armstrong but, judging by my evaluation, a bit more carefree. I think they're about equal, though, since Armstrong sounds more commanding.

[LiamKav]

I've never got why people hate on Jheese (who must have the most alternative spellings of any DBZ character) for having an Australian accent in the dub. Yes, it was silly. Yes, it didn't make sense. But HE WAS SPEAKING ENGLISH! THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE!

You've either got to assume that none of these characters should have any accents whatsoever, or that Jheese came from a planet where people happened to have an accent that sounded Australian. Which, well, is a lot more believable that many other things in DragonBall.

(As has been pointed out, there are lots of accents in the original Japanese version, and since those places don't exist on DB Earth, then their inclusion doesn't make sense. But if we're having them, why can't we have different English accents in the English version?)

Besides, it gave TFS plenty of opportunities for great jokes, which makes everything okay.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I've never got why people hate on Jheese (who must have the most alternative spellings of any DBZ character) for having an Australian accent in the dub. Yes, it was silly. Yes, it didn't make sense. But HE WAS SPEAKING ENGLISH! THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE!

You've either got to assume that none of these characters should have any accents whatsoever, or that Jheese came from a planet where people happened to have an accent that sounded Australian. Which, well, is a lot more believable that many other things in DragonBall.

(As has been pointed out, there are lots of accents in the original Japanese version, and since those places don't exist on DB Earth, then their inclusion doesn't make sense. But if we're having them, why can't we have different English accents in the English version?)

Besides, it gave TFS plenty of opportunities for great jokes, which makes everything okay.

But why? Why, of all things, must he have an Australian accent (not that I have anything against Australians or their accents), while all the other characters have American or neutral accents? Not to mention how god-awful and exaggerated Sabat's Australian accent was.

It's not even accurate either. Did we ever remotely get that impression from the original Japanese? No, so why did they feel the need to insert this bullshit, presumably just for the sake of giving a character without much personality characterization non-existent in the original? Do your job, and don't fuck around with the product.

[TripleRach]

(As has been pointed out, there are lots of accents in the original Japanese version, and since those places don't exist on DB Earth, then their inclusion doesn't make sense. But if we're having them, why can't we have different English accents in the English version?)

Because most of the accents are given to characters who didn't have any major accents or speaking quirks originally. It separates them from other characters in ways they weren't meant to be separated. Changing the way someone speaks borders on changing their whole personality.

Also, a lot of the accents are poorly done, and sometimes they're just stereotypes (like Namu's Indian accent, or Killa's ridiculous jive).

[Drew]

Kai has the best cast for it to me hands down.

Except Jheese, nobody has ever done a good voice for Jheese. My problem specifically is that Jheese is from Space Australia.

On a side note, go Space Broncos!

[penguintruth]

I can't really even tell what kind of accent Jheese in Kai has. It sounds vaguely Scottish.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I honestly don't hear an accent out of Jheese in Kai, so I don't know what you guys are going on about. If you can't tell, maybe there isn't one?

Not that I want to push my opinion on anyone, just that I simply don't hear any accent.

EDIT: Alright, I listened to him again and realized that I do detect some kind of accent in there. But I'm not sure what it is either. It might be subtly Australian, Scottish or some other English accent. Either way, it's not enough for me to really care, since it's not obnoxious like Sabat's Jheese and I still think Liebrecht is a good Jheese.

[DarkPrince_92]

I love Dale Kelly's CHANGE NOWW!!!!!!!

I'm kinda late on this, but Dale Kelly is the best Ginyu, second is R. Bruce Elliot's.


And Jheese/Jeice/Juice/whatever... did lose an Australian accent in Kai, but his voice is still weird. Like you guys said, can't place what accent that he may have.

[Akumaito Beam]

Okay great, I can finally bring up a nagging, snarky, stupid little thought that I had nowhere to blurt out.

So could Chris Sabat NOT do a Scottish accent in season 3? Could nobody at Funimation? Like was there seriously a moment where all 5 of the voice actors shrugged their collective shoulders and went "Guess we'll just have to change Jeice's accent and hope nobody notices!"

[DarkPrince_92]

I don't think anybody cared that much. Jeice only lasted for so long.

[Akumaito Beam]

I don't think anybody cared that much.

That explains season 3 in itself really.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I don't think anybody cared that much.

That explains season 3 in itself really.

Also, they were amateurs back then.

[Akumaito Beam]

Also, they were amateurs back then.

I would just assume 1 out of 5 people in any random group could do a Scottish accent much less a group of voice actors.That's all I'm sayin'.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Also, they were amateurs back then.

I would just assume 1 out of 5 people in any random group could do a Scottish accent much less a group of voice actors.That's all I'm sayin'.

You would be surprised.

Just look at Sabat's Australian accent. Yeah, it sounds Australian enough, but it sounds really, really forced and exaggerated, so it's evident that it's just a guy putting it on.

[Metalwario64]

I really like Jeice's voice in Kai. Sabat's voice just sounds like an American guy doing a cliched Australian imitation, while his Kai voice sounds natural.

I completely agree with this. His FUNimation Kai dub voice is definitely underrated in my opinion, and I also feel he's a good match for the original Japanese Z voice actor.

Also, love the screams.

[Attitudefan]

Please show me proof that Armstrong is better than Kelly. I've watched both the original season 3 and the remastered and every scene with Ginyu, Kelly outclasses him! In screams, in acting, in emphasis, in literally everything!

Show me a scene that Armstrong is better. He's terrible. He doesn't sound Commanding, Ocean Ginyu did. He doesn't sound that flamboyant; Kelly's Ginyu did. Kelly sounded commanding and tough as well. I like it a lot. out of all the season three voices, I thought he always had the most potential. It is a shame he left.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Please show me proof that Armstrong is better than Kelly. I've watched both the original season 3 and the remastered and every scene with Ginyu, Kelly outclasses him! In screams, in acting, in emphasis, in literally everything!

Show me a scene that Armstrong is better. He's terrible. He doesn't sound Commanding, Ocean Ginyu did. He doesn't sound that flamboyant; Kelly's Ginyu did. Kelly sounded commanding and tough as well. I like it a lot. out of all the season three voices, I thought he always had the most potential. It is a shame he left.

We don't need to show you proof, and you probably won't change your mind even with this supposed proof. Everyone has their own opinion. I personally think that Dale Kelly sounds too gravelly, while Armstrong and Elliott were much smoother and commanding. Newman was commanding too, but didn't have the same lively spirit as Armstrong and Elliott.

[Attitudefan]

Please show me proof that Armstrong is better than Kelly. I've watched both the original season 3 and the remastered and every scene with Ginyu, Kelly outclasses him! In screams, in acting, in emphasis, in literally everything!

Show me a scene that Armstrong is better. He's terrible. He doesn't sound Commanding, Ocean Ginyu did. He doesn't sound that flamboyant; Kelly's Ginyu did. Kelly sounded commanding and tough as well. I like it a lot. out of all the season three voices, I thought he always had the most potential. It is a shame he left.

We don't need to show you proof, and you probably won't change your mind even with this supposed proof. Everyone has their own opinion. I personally think that Dale Kelly sounds too gravelly, while Armstrong and Elliott were much smoother and commanding. Newman was commanding too, but didn't have the same lively spirit as Armstrong and Elliott.

Despite being gravely, I think his acting was okay. I like the gravelyness to his voice actually.

Newman sounded lively when he needed to be. The scene with the candy and tryouts he plays the role extremely well.