Worst dub lines ever

[Fionordequester]

I can see that, and understand your complaints towards Saiga. Nevertheless, I also do think that PenguinTruth is jumping down his throat a little, even if I do agree that the Original version of that scene was better...

However, I am also confused as to PenguinTruth's reasoning. Yeah, it almost sounds as though you're saying that there's no such thing as being able to improve upon the script of any script. Like, any change, NO MATTER HOW JUSTIFIED, REASONABLE, AND NATURAL is somehow a mistake...which I completely disagree with.

Really though, if you want a good example of a well-done Woolseyism, look at a game called "Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn"....

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...Now, there's a guy called the Black Knight who appeared in the games prequel, "Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance", who fought with the game's protragonist, Ike, and lost. But now, THIS TIME, he's going to go all-out, unlike last time. But why didn't he fight at full power the last time he fought Ike? Well, the English version of the game says that that time the Black Knight fought Ike? Well, essentially, the Black Knight realized that Ike had not grown to his full potential, and decided to fake his defeat in order to have a more satisfying match with him in the future (yeah, he was a bit like Vegeta and Goku that way).

In the JAPANESE version however, the explanation is a little more, uh...out there, to say the least. You see, in THIS version, the Black Knight used a handy little tool he had, Warp Powder, that could teleport him across extremely large stretches of land. But, when he used it to arrive to fight Ike, his powder malfunctioned, and somehow, both his spirit and his armor ended up being separated from his body, and it was only the Black Knight's SPIRIT AND BODY, that Ike ended up defeating...

So essentially, this happened...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ggHgUQeZLk

...I am not making any of this up. The Japanese version really is THAT stupid in explaining why Ike was able to beat the Black Knight the first time. And no, this plot point had NO build up to it and was never mentioned again after being introduced. It was extremely clear that the writers had written themselves into a corner and pulled this completely out of nowhere...

So if THAT'S not an example of a script being improved because of the fact that it differed from the original script, I don't know what is.

EDIT: Now of course, I suppose you could say that, in a life-or-death match, it's also a bit implausable that one would be able to "fake" his own defeat without being killed in the process, but I still say it's not nearly as implausible as having your own spirit harmed to the point of being left for dead without any repercussions whatsoever after it returned to your body.

[penguintruth]

It's not the place of the people at Funimation to "improve" anything. It's to adapt the Japanese product into an English version. Smooth things over where you have to, but stay as loyal to the Japanese script as possible. I'm not interested in the creative writing class that the dub team thinks they are. The show's already been made. If Funimation wants to write a show so badly, they should open up an animation studio and produce their own cartoons, not heavily rewrite something that's already been written.

It's arrogant for some second-hand profiteers to think they know better what the show should be than the studio who made it.

[Fionordequester]

It's not the place of the people at Funimation to "improve" anything.

Even if it's done with Toei's blessing and full knowledge?

[dbboxkaifan]

And that's why I like Kai's dub. It's far more accurate to the original JPN version in script, story and characterizations while using an appropriate amount of Woolseyisms that actually work for the series unlike those... other DBZ dubs. I don't care if they still deviating a little bit, they're clearly staying true to the original version as much as possible and I'm not going to get all uptight about any small changes that barely affect the whole show. It may be a dub but it's also an adaptation since certain things wouldn't work in English like in Japanese such as jokes or sentence structure (okay, that can be subjective) but the more faithful to the original, the far better as it is with Kai.

You may very well be right, but this has always bugged me as to why FUNimation keeps on using it so much unnecessarily, unless it's really on the Japanese script, which I don't think it is as FUNi uses far too much.

Vejita blasts a track to battle No. 18, the guy inside the truck is still alive: "dude mah truck!"
"Kami up there all by himself and with no internet connection" - Goku
"I sure am glad I set my DVR to record this" - Mr. Satan

^ Those might be different on the actual FUNi Eng Kai dub.

It's definitely better than the old FUNi English dub but not all that accurate, it may be accurate as an English dub gets, though, they still didn't manage to get the names right or attacks. Inconsistent.

[Gonstead]

Vejita blasts a track to battle No. 18, the guy inside the truck is still alive: "dude mah truck!"
"Kami up there all by himself and with no internet connection" - Goku
"I sure am glad I set my DVR to record this" - Mr. Satan

1. Error left in not on purpose
2. It's Goku making some light humor. Plus, the line isn't really all that bad.
3. Simply an update to the original. Honestly, what kid under the age of 10 knows what a VCR is?

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

It's Goku making some light humor. Plus, the line isn't really all that bad.

Would Goku even know what an internet connection is?

Simply an update to the original. Honestly, what kid under the age of 10 knows what a VCR is?

Okay, but was there any particular reason why they had to specify an exact recording device?

[Gonstead]

It's Goku making some light humor. Plus, the line isn't really all that bad.

Would Goku even know what an internet connection is?

He probably would have learned what it was.

Simply an update to the original. Honestly, what kid under the age of 10 knows what a VCR is?

Okay, but was there any particular reason why they had to specify an exact recording device?

It's trying to relate to a much more tech-savvie kid audience. Ask any kid with cable what a DVR is and they can probably tell you. Ask them what a VCR is and you'll probably get silence.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

It's trying to relate to a much more tech-savvie kid audience. Ask any kid with cable what a DVR is and they can probably tell you. Ask them what a VCR is and you'll probably get silence.

I was just asking why they couldn't just leave the recordiing device ambiguous, and let the kids assume its a DVR?

[Gonstead]

It's trying to relate to a much more tech-savvie kid audience. Ask any kid with cable what a DVR is and they can probably tell you. Ask them what a VCR is and you'll probably get silence.

I was just asking why they couldn't just leave the recordiing device ambiguous, and let the kids assume its a DVR?

How would you try and word it out while staying true to the script?

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

How would you try and word it out while staying true to the script?

"I sure am glad I set 'it' to record this."

How's that? Just saying he used "it" to record something should more than imply that "it" is a recording device.

EDIT: Just so we're clear, I was really tired when I posted this, and couldn't think straight when coming up with the line. Ordinarily, I know how the English language works. I just don't want anyone here to think I'm an idiot. Thank you.

[Gonstead]

How would you try and word it out while staying true to the script?

"I sure am glad I set 'it' to record this."

How's that? Just saying he used "it" to record something should more than imply that "it" is a recording device.

That sentence sounds incomplete on it's own. Usually when you refer to something as "It", you refer it in a past tense or have spoken about it beforehand, which we don't see Mr Satan commenting on.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

Okay, how 'bout this.

"I'm glad I had this set for recording."

[Gonstead]

Okay, how 'bout this.

"I'm glad I had this set for recording."

I'd rather go for something like this.

"I sure am glad this is being recorded to watch later"

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

I'd rather go for something like this.

"I'm sure as glad this is being recorded to watch later"

Well, there you go.

[Gonstead]

I'd rather go for something like this.

"I sure am glad this is being recorded to watch later"

Well, there you go.

True, but to me it's not really a bad line in the first place really.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

True, but to me it's not really a bad line in the first place really.

Okey-dokey.

[Nex Carnifex]

BATOSAAAN!

[LiamKav]

For an accurate dub FUNimation wasn't very accurate in translating the name to the western style.

Well, in the original the only characters with last names were the Son family, and Dr Brief. Bulma, Trunks etc never had their last name mentioned. "Bulma Brief" and "Trunks Brief" are dub only inventions, and are true to the western style, so I guess yay?

(Thinking about that, are they implying that Vegeta took Bulma's last name, or that he just didn't give a monkeys? I'm more likely to go with the latter.)

[Gonstead]

(Thinking about that, are they implying that Vegeta took Bulma's last name, or that he just didn't give a monkeys? I'm more likely to go with the latter.)

He would likely appear with her last name on any documents (Drivers License and etc) but aside from that, he could give a rats about it.

[matt0044]

You may very well be right, but this has always bugged me as to why FUNimation keeps on using it so much unnecessarily, unless it's really on the Japanese script, which I don't think it is as FUNi uses far too much.

Well, if you were fighting for your life and defending all you held dear, odds are that you'd be swearing if things looked bad. You'd have to try reeeeaally hard not to. Put yourself in their shoes. Honestly, I hated the pseudo swearing in DBZ's old dub since it sounded so forced and unfitting like "Darn you!" or "Oh gosh no."

The whole internet connection joke makes sense since Bulma might've told Goku about it to help him in life and considering Dragon Ball's Earth is futuristic, them having the World Wide Web would be a no brainer. Goku was just making some casual humor anyways. As for Satan, who would honestly still have a VHS? That reference would be pretty dated.

The "Dude, my Truck" was likely an take that was used by mistake.

As for Woolseyism, I understand where you're coming from but if FUNi (outside SGT Frog and Shin Chan) manage to not go too far in doing these (outside a few slip ups), I'm personally fine .