Worst dub lines ever

[penguintruth]

From movie 9:

"I know your kind. You think you can just waltz in and take our planet. But you forgot one thing: I'm my father's SOOOOOOONNNNNN!" - Gohan

Laaame.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

[Freeza] "What's the matter? Is your phone call over? Good thing they reached you before I disconnected your number!"

[Rory]

"I know your kind. You think you can just waltz in and take our planet. But you forgot one thing: I'm my father's SOOOOOOONNNNNN!" - Gohan

Laaame.

Really piss-poor delivery too.

[Akumaito Beam]

What's said in Kai's dub is very often 90% the same thing being said in the JPN version and while it may seem a contradiction, they did say "as possible" meaning "not exactly 100% but more like 90% or around there" and that's good enough for me since that's "as close as possible." I give FUNi leeway since their dub scripts for Anime after DBZ like FMA or YYH tend to be entertaining while I take solace in that they're conveying the same story from Japan.

I really don't mean to harp on your posts but I really do think "as close as possible" means you intentionally avoid things like adding terrible jokes to your script. You avoid wrong terminology. Hell, it even extends to picking the right voice actors and line deliveries to get a very, very close approximation to the mood the Japanese version was trying to convey. Just yesterday I was watching episode one of the Japanese DBZ and Chi Chi very sweetly calls out "Gohan" in an almost sing songy way every time, meanwhile the DBZ Kai Chi Chi simply calls out for Gohan once in an impatient way and then shouts testily (almost irrationally angrily) "GOHAN!!!" (which is even funnier because she calls considerably fewer times in Kai.) That alone is a small matter but stuff like this persists all throughout the dub. Even if they didn't keep their terrible old dub terminology,jokes and inappropriate voices constant poor line deliveries in themselves would make me feel like this dub is fairly inaccurate.

It's fine if you just don't care about that sort of stuff but I don't think those are invalid or hypercritical complaints.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think FUNimation were half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the old Z dub and half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the original, which is why it still feels a bit off. But it's much more tolerable than it used to be, and is a fairly decent dub now. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

[dprez]

When Gohan Boo is talking to Goku about who he has left to fuse with, he says something along the lines of, "I have your two sons in here, maybe we could use some family counseling! Hahahahaha!".

Another retarded attempt at humor by adding unnecessary jokes...When you watch the dub with the english subtitles on, it makes you want to slap whoever wrote these FUNi scripts....

[matt0044]

I think FUNimation were half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the old Z dub and half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the original, which is why it still feels a bit off. But it's much more tolerable than it used to be, and is a fairly decent dub now. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

They might as well have gone for aiming at fans of the original since they failed in the attempt anyways. I mean, the dubbies can still have the old DBZ dub while we get a dub we truly deserve.

[Insertclevername]

3. Simply an update to the original. Honestly, what kid under the age of 10 knows what a VCR is?

Maybe being a kid has changed since I was one, but I'd honestly be surprised if most kids before 10 (I mean, come on, 10's pretty old) knew what a VCR was. When I was in that age range was the first half of the '90s, and I knew what a record player was. Hell, I knew what 8-tracks were before I was 7, and that was definitely dead technology. I don't think you're giving kids enough credit, especially given that VCRs would have been much more ubiquitous in their parents' lives than 8-tracks were in mine.

Its funny when you consider all the knowledge they have with the internet, yet they most are pretty clueless when it comes to decade or more old information. Hell, a girl at my school last year didn't even know who Osama Bin Laden was when he died.

One bad line was in the episode where Trunks goes back to kill #17 and #18, where #17 was about to shoot the old man with his gun and he said "Well alright then old timer" in the most annoying hick voice. Also when #18 said "now for bonus points" or "you'll blow a circuit if you keep this up".

[Akumaito Beam]

I think FUNimation were half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the old Z dub and half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the original, which is why it still feels a bit off. But it's much more tolerable than it used to be, and is a fairly decent dub now. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

I disagree with it being a fairly decent dub. I think it's a below average dub by Funimation's standards (who I find a fairly below average dubbing company). I will agree it's improved, that is to say it's more accurate but that wasn't a particularly high hurdle.

But yeah, you're totally right this thing was made trying to please both audiences and I think it ended up pleasing half of the dub fans and got a reluctant round of applause from sub fans for a decent hustle like a fat uncoordinated kid on the football field who tripped over his feet (but it was better than last year when he almost died of a heart attack on the bench.)

Okay, maybe that was a harsh analogy...

[matt0044]

Don't get me wrong: I enjoy the Japanese version and HATE, HATE, HATE how the dub practically tossed the original script away in favor of dumb, dumb dialogue. Maybe Dragon Ball's wasn't too bad since it was a comedy but the unneeded changes just made me ask "Why?"

And I acknowledge that Kai's dub isn't very accurate but it at least stays true to the original story and the dub dialogue is surprising enjoyable to me since the VAs deliver them very well and it knows when to be funny and serious rather than playing up the former to "Oh sweet merciful God, KILL ME" levels like the old dub. In fact, Krillin's wisecracks are actually endearing to his character for me. And I guess when I compare it the DBZ dub, it makes things better since I can appreciate Kai's dub more.

I may disagree with you, Akumaito Beam, but trust me when I say that I know what you're talking about and how you feel. I myself just don't see it as Black and White where even the slightest change in the dub brands it as awful automatically. I just think about said "changes" and if they're good or bad, that's just me.

[DarkPrince_92]

TFS is a better dub.




Let's see much trouble this one causes....

[Akumaito Beam]

I may disagree with you, Akumaito Beam, but trust me when I say that I know what you're talking about and how you feel. I myself just don't see it as Black and White where even the slightest change in the dub brands it as awful automatically. I just think about said "changes" and if they're good or bad, that's just me.

But see, I don't consider what I listed "small changes". I think things like character personality shifts and completely replaced terminology are pretty major changes. The added jokes aren't major but I guess you could say I consider them obnoxiously unnecessary (and fairly unfunny.)

To put it simply the only reason the dub would ever need to deviate from the script would be to rework lines to fit mouth flaps. It's really not too much to ask for them to inspect the line after they're done translating it and ask themselves if it interferes with the personality of the character who is delivering said line. Then you hire a proper voice director (to direct the voices that, y'know actually fit the character's personality) to essentially make sure of the exact same thing. Outside of that, as PenguinTruth said it's not your job to flex your creative muscles. Your job is practically done for you.The more you "punch up" a script the worse you're doing your job in this case.

Edit:
I couldn't have said these points any better myself.

I'm not interested in the creative writing class that the dub team thinks they are.

It's arrogant for some second-hand profiteers to think they know better what the show should be than the studio who made it.

[dprez]

I think FUNimation were half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the old Z dub and half-trying to limit pissing off fans of the original, which is why it still feels a bit off. But it's much more tolerable than it used to be, and is a fairly decent dub now. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

I disagree with it being a fairly decent dub. I think it's a below average dub by Funimation's standards (who I find a fairly below average dubbing company). I will agree it's improved, that is to say it's more accurate but that wasn't a particularly high hurdle.

But yeah, you're totally right this thing was made trying to please both audiences and I think it ended up pleasing half of the dub fans and got a reluctant round of applause from sub fans for a decent hustle like a fat uncoordinated kid on the football field who tripped over his feet (but it was better than last year when he almost died of a heart attack on the bench.)

Okay, maybe that was a harsh analogy...

Literally lmao. Yea that was a little harsh...but not so far off if you ask me.

It all depends on how you felt about the first FUNi dub on how you view Kai's dub. If you were a fan, or even a semi-fan of the FUNi dub, then Kai is like the greatest thing ever, of course these people are shit outta luck if they desire Faulconer's score. Any casual fan of the english dub would enjoy Kai, but others who basically can't stand to watch the series in english, or just simply prefer the japanese version, would have no interest in watching this new english dub, even as improved as it is over the first, and I can understand this. Maybe just out of curiosity, but for pure enjoyment, like watching it all the way through like that, naw... Akumaito Beam, you seam to be in this bunch, and I'm not far behind you.

BTW, penguintruth speaks the truth there.

[sonikku956]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMHv2tC ... re=related

HE BROKE HIS LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG




So awful...

[OzzyApu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMHv2tC ... re=related

HE BROKE HIS LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG




So awful...

It was painful sitting through that entire clip because of the horrible screams from everyone. Ugh. That dub will always suck.

[dprez]

That really wasn't so bad imo. The voice actors had noticeably improved by then.

[Metalwario64]

Sabat was awful as Piccolo Jr. in Dragon Ball. If I recall, he had already toned down the rasp as him in Z by that point, but in Dragon Ball he really upped the rasp on him. Why would younger Piccolo sound rougher? Was that an attempt at making him sound more evil?

Schemmel was pretty good in Dragon Ball's dub though. He sounded a lot more innocent and more like a man-child than he ever did in Z's dub.

[dprez]

Sabat was awful as Piccolo Jr. in Dragon Ball. If I recall, he had already toned down the rasp as him in Z by that point, but in Dragon Ball he really upped the rasp on him. Why would younger Piccolo sound rougher? Was that an attempt at making him sound more evil?

Probably. It's funny you said that, because I truly felt that Piccolos ridiculous laughter was so out of place during that clip.

Schemmel was pretty good in Dragon Ball's dub though. He sounded a lot more innocent and more like a man-child than he ever did in Z's dub.

My thoughts exactly. I felt his screams were pretty damn good.

[Gonstead]

I find that Sabat did a better job as Piccolo Daimao than as Piccolo Jr for Dragon Ball.

[penguintruth]

I find that Sabat did a better job as Piccolo Daimao than as Piccolo Jr for Dragon Ball.

I've found that, too. Sabat was a great Daimao, but an iffy Ma Junior.