Was Nicktoons the best fit for Kai to air in hindsight?

[Cure Dragon 255]

PRECISELY!

Toon- From CarTOON

Nami- Japanese for WAVE

Thus Nami IS the part that implies anime in TOONAMI.

[Gonstead]

PRECISELY!

Toon- From CarTOON

Nami- Japanese for WAVE

Thus Nami IS the part that implies anime in TOONAMI.

Except that when Toonami initially started in 1997, it had only 1 Anime show at the time while the rest was western cartoons.

In the end, Toonami is just meant to sound like Tsunami. There is no hidden meaning behind the name.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Okay, Okay, you win.

[DBZAOTA482]

Dat Kai

Damn, it's like they're looking for any opportiunity to swear.

Hell it wouldn't hurt for more variety. I would have liked to hear Goku say "Oh calm down, you crazy bitch." when he smacks Chi-Chi through the wall...while wearing a wifebeater.

[MetroidJunkie]

I'm starting to think Funimation DID infact censor too much and that Nicktoons is hardly any more censor happy than Toonami was. Proof? Look at Dragonball GT. The only thing I saw they really did was cut out Roshi groping some women's asses. Other things I noticed, like stopping Vegeta's cut from bleeding out but showing it after it had already bled out (So, not showing the blood in motion) without editing the color of the blood (It was still very red) and still censoring Mr.Satan to Her-cule were things Toonami was guilty of. It's still rated Y7, to boot.

None of the death dialogue, from what I can tell, was even touched as Funimation didn't seem to care enough to do any real edits, even using the original TV version's shotty music and intro. Kind of makes me think that theory that Funimation overcensored Kai to push dvd sales was actually true, since they wouldn't care so much about Dragonball GT sales since it's one of their much older dubs. Or maybe it's because, unlike Kai, GT won't also be going to 4-kids so they didn't have to worry about having stricter editing standards. You can arguably say the same for the Dragonball Z Movies, though those were aired at Prime Time and possibly rated PG (I know Fusion Reborn was) so that's a different case.

In any case, I think Dragonball GT proves that, overall, Nicktoons doesn't censor much more than Toonami does so I'd say it was a good call for bringing Kai into, particularly since it gives Funimation another network option for their more kid friendly anime.

[matt0044]

I'm starting to think Funimation DID infact censor too much and that Nicktoons is hardly any more censor happy than Toonami was. Proof? Look at Dragonball GT. The only thing I saw they really did was cut out Roshi groping some women's asses. Other things I noticed, like stopping Vegeta's cut from bleeding out but showing it after it had already bled out (So, not showing the blood in motion) without editing the color of the blood (It was still very red) and still censoring Mr.Satan to Her-cule were things Toonami was guilty of. It's still rated Y7, to boot.

None of the death dialogue, from what I can tell, was even touched as Funimation didn't seem to care enough to do any real edits, even using the original TV version's shotty music and intro. Kind of makes me think that theory that Funimation overcensored Kai to push dvd sales was actually true, since they wouldn't care so much about Dragonball GT sales since it's one of their much older dubs. Or maybe it's because, unlike Kai, GT won't also be going to 4-kids so they didn't have to worry about having stricter editing standards. You can arguably say the same for the Dragonball Z Movies, though those were aired at Prime Time and possibly rated PG (I know Fusion Reborn was) so that's a different case.

In any case, I think Dragonball GT proves that, overall, Nicktoons doesn't censor much more than Toonami does so I'd say it was a good call for bringing Kai into, particularly since it gives Funimation another network option for their more kid friendly anime.

But what about after 4kids seemed to stop showing new episodes?

[MetroidJunkie]

But what about after 4kids seemed to stop showing new episodes?

Guess Funimation was trying to push dvd sales, then. Either that, or Ocean Group didn't get the memo and were just censoring to THEIR standards. There's not much room for doubt since Dragonball GT is far less edited, it's on the same network, and it even has the same Y7 rating. That, atleast, suggests that the extra edits done definitely weren't Nicktoons' doing, unless they mysteriously loosened up their standards between then but that seems very unlikely.

[Nex Carnifex]

Would've been awesome on this new Toonami, they aired Deadman's Wonderland with plenty of gore, I'm sure DBZK would air on there completely uncut.

[Gonstead]

Would've been awesome on this new Toonami, they aired Deadman's Wonderland with plenty of gore, I'm sure DBZK would air on there completely uncut.

Indeed it would.

It's too bad we won't be able to see it uncut on TV unless Nicktoons loses the license.

[MetroidJunkie]

Indeed it would.

It's too bad we won't be able to see it uncut on TV unless Nicktoons loses the license.

Also, Funimation would have to make enough money off of it to justify airing it uncut, because that would mean people don't have as much of a reason to buy the dvd's. Given the theory of them overediting Kai to make the dvd's seem more tempting, they might be reluctant to air it uncut even if Toonami had a chance at it.

[Nex Carnifex]

Indeed it would.

It's too bad we won't be able to see it uncut on TV unless Nicktoons loses the license.

Also, Funimation would have to make enough money off of it to justify airing it uncut, because that would mean people don't have as much of a reason to buy the dvd's. Given the theory of them overediting Kai to make the dvd's seem more tempting, they might be reluctant to air it uncut even if Toonami had a chance at it.

I'm sure the people who want to own it would still buy it so they can watch them in succession, and airing it uncut might convince more adults which have money to spend to buy it once they see how different it is uncensored.

[MetroidJunkie]

Tell that to Funimation. I'm starting to think Nicktoons doesn't even have a problem with red blood so long as it isn't moving because I distinctly saw red blood on Vegeta's wounds when Baby infected them on GT, on Nicktoons and Y7 rated. Thanks to that overcensor, people now think Dragonball Kai doesn't have blood in it.

[matt0044]

Maybe FUNi could stream legally uncut episodes of DBZ Kai on Youtube and Crunchyroll and label them UNCUT to get everyone's attention. All the "Kai is edited" haters need to do is watch Episode 1 through 4 at least or episode where characters are obviously bleeding.

[Nex Carnifex]

Yeah I seriously don't get those people, either they saw Z uncut and are assuming Nicktoons aired the uncut version or they watched Z back when it aired on Toonami and falsely remember it as being more violent than the Kai aired on Nicktoons. Or they just think Nicktoons sounds gay, which it does. I'm sure most of them would instantly change their opinion upon hearing the cursing in the new dub, just because.

[MetroidJunkie]

Probably because they only remember the uncut dvd and forgot all about edits made to the Toonami version.

[DoomieDoomie911]

Plus, CN purposely refused DBZ Kai so FUNi went with Nicktoons so more kids could be exposed to the series and maybe Anime in general. Quite frankly, I salute this act.

But still wouldn't it make more sense to put it on CN? Not many kids have Nicktoons, more kids watch CN.

[CaBrPi]

Plus, CN purposely refused DBZ Kai so FUNi went with Nicktoons so more kids could be exposed to the series and maybe Anime in general. Quite frankly, I salute this act.

But still wouldn't it make more sense to put it on CN? Not many kids have Nicktoons, more kids watch CN.

I think the point here is that Cartoon Network didn't even try to get the rights to air Kai, so it ended up going to Nicktoons. If you want to blame anyone for CN not airing Kai, blame CN. It's their fault. They don't like anime anymore.

[matt0044]

Plus, CN purposely refused DBZ Kai so FUNi went with Nicktoons so more kids could be exposed to the series and maybe Anime in general. Quite frankly, I salute this act.

But still wouldn't it make more sense to put it on CN? Not many kids have Nicktoons, more kids watch CN.

I think the point here is that Cartoon Network didn't even try to get the rights to air Kai, so it ended up going to Nicktoons. If you want to blame anyone for CN not airing Kai, blame CN. It's their fault. They don't like anime anymore.

At least not during the daytime.

[Nex Carnifex]

Plus, CN purposely refused DBZ Kai so FUNi went with Nicktoons so more kids could be exposed to the series and maybe Anime in general. Quite frankly, I salute this act.

But still wouldn't it make more sense to put it on CN? Not many kids have Nicktoons, more kids watch CN.

I think the point here is that Cartoon Network didn't even try to get the rights to air Kai, so it ended up going to Nicktoons. If you want to blame anyone for CN not airing Kai, blame CN. It's their fault. They don't like anime anymore.

Well in that case fuck CN

[Cure Dragon 255]

Finally! I'm glad more and more people say that. Nicktoons was the best place for Kai, not only because it gave Nicktoons a taste of anime but also because it shows people CN is run by assholes. Well, at least Jason de Marco is a bro.