Dragon Ball Z Kai more popular on DVD than Blu-ray?

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Dragon Ball Z Kai more popular on DVD than Blu-ray?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:22 pm

I don't know but I tend to see people talk more about getting Kai on DVD than BD even though the PQ/AQ is better on BD they still prefer to go with DVD, possibly because, 1) No BDP and 2) consistent DVD collection as the owner already owns other DB content on DVD.

I've bought all Dragon Ball Z Kai Part Collections on Blu-ray (Part Eight is coming) and DVD being inferior to BD I don't quite get it why people would want to watch Kai in standard definition, maybe it's due to the reasons I mentioned earlier on.

DBZ Kai DVD version does have some improvements over the Blu-ray edition, for example, the DVD comes with two character pictures for each case while the BD has only one for each.
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Post by DHM211 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:58 pm

Well up until a month ago i didnt have a blu-ray player, infact i had a dvd player hooked up to a 4:3 tube T.V. Then when i got an HD tv a got a blu-ray player so, i got part 5 on blu-ray and i got season 2 on blu-ray. I intend to get all the kai season sets on blu-ray.

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Post by Gonstead » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:14 pm

I just don't care about Blu-Ray.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai more popular on DVD than Blu-ray?

Post by DHM211 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:19 pm

Gonstead wrote:I just don't care about Blu-Ray.

Why? Its like a 1000 times better then dvd.

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:42 pm

Quite honestly, Kai does not look very good. It's rather soft. I wouldn't fault someone for choosing the Blu-ray version. A lot of people just don't think animation in general is worth it on BD. Though from what I've seen, the Blu-ray has been selling better. Maybe that's just here. One thing is, the DVDs have a bit more subdued colors that are more pleasing to the eye. The Blu-ray's colors are still good, though the DVDs' are a tad better. I don't think anyone would choose the DVD for that reason, but it's worth mentioning. One odd thing that I've noticed, the Blu-rays are often cheaper. I don't know what kind of sense that makes.
Also, that screencap isn't the full resolution. At its full size, the Blu-ray versions of the new opening, endings, and eyecatches blow the DVD out of the water.

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Post by Gonstead » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:42 pm

I'm perfectly fine with what's on the Kai DVD's.

I'm not one of those who obsesses over how much Blu-Ray looks and sounds better than all other formats. I don't care, I just want to watch the content inside the disc.
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:03 am

Gonstead wrote:I'm perfectly fine with what's on the Kai DVD's.

I'm not one of those who obsesses over how much Blu-Ray looks and sounds better than all other formats. I don't care, I just want to watch the content inside the disc.
I agree. You're not missing out on anything crazy. Sure it might look a little better but, it's not like playing Street Fighter II on Game Boy compared to playing Street Fighter II on SNES. You're getting basically the same experience.

I bought the Parts on DVD so I could do the comparisons but bought the "season" sets on Blu-ray because they're what I'll be keeping in the long run. I think movies like say, Toy Story 3 would be better on Blu-ray over DVD, but not DBZK. But hey, to each his own.

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Post by cloud1414 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:12 am

I'm pretty sure people are buying them on DVDs because not everyone has the money to afford a Bluray player or a PS3. I have a 360 so its perfect and DVDs are a lot cheaper than Blurays.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:21 am

cloud1414 wrote:I have a 360 so its perfect and DVDs are a lot cheaper than Blurays.
Actually, the DVD are more expensive than the Blu-rays. Well, on Amazon anyway...

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Post by BluezaBladeNZ » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:23 am

Ever since I found out about how Blu-ray discs are more scratch-resistant and how movies etc are kept at 24p no matter the region (since I happen to be one of the few that just can't stand PAL speedups), I've been more interested in replacing DVDs.

But back on-topic. I haven't got the sets myself but from what I've seen, the only thing that would benefit in video quality would be the opening/ending animations, eyecatchs and the content from Z episodes 73-80. Though for me if I had a choice, I would still go for Blu-ray mostly for the extra durability (as I mentioned above) since I'm skiddish about scratched DVDs (same reason I'm making custom Blu-ray discs for my Dragon Box sets) and even for the slight video upgrade.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:53 am

BluezaBladeNZ wrote:Ever since I found out about how Blu-ray discs are more scratch-resistant and how movies etc are kept at 24p no matter the region (since I happen to be one of the few that just can't stand PAL speedups), I've been more interested in replacing DVDs.
Yep scratch-resistant and 24p for all Blu-ray films/series are two fantastic BD features!
BluezaBladeNZ wrote:and the content from Z episodes 73-80
Well, I'd say Namek arc and Frieza (I've come to like Frieza instead of Freeza, if it's cool, guys) arc are the best PQ (imo) that Dragon Ball Kai offered us, as for the Cell arc, I've seen some pretty weird animation inconsistencies, take this for example: http://youtu.be/SV8QiJUBses
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Post by BluezaBladeNZ » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:01 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Well, I'd say Namek arc and Frieza (I've come to like Frieza instead of Freeza, if it's cool, guys) arc are the best PQ (imo) that Dragon Ball Kai offered us, as for the Cell arc, I've seen some pretty weird animation inconsistencies, take this for example: http://youtu.be/SV8QiJUBses
Wow that is bad, I've only seen up to episode 77 as I'm rebuilding the Yamamoto score for the dub track (I'm aware dbkaimusicrevivial is doing it too) so I've yet to see that. While the quality looks far better for those certain episodes on Blu-ray, it does unfortunately makes the reanimated bits in them stick out more as they appear too blurred judging by screenshots I've seen.

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Post by masterz13 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:10 am

We live in a widescreen era. That's why I go with DVD. At least that gives you an option to stretch to widescreen. When I pay hundreds of dollars for an widescreen HDTV, I want my shows to fit the whole screen. The Blu-Rays are a joke because of those black borders. It's a shame that Funimation has went so cheap on both releases though. I can't even read the episode lists on some of the DVD cases because the color choices were terrible. And with so much storage on a Blu-Ray disc, Funimation just had to make a widescreen version and give us the option in the menu. But until then, I'm stuck with DVD.

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:24 am

masterz13 wrote:We live in a widescreen era. That's why I go with DVD. At least that gives you an option to stretch to widescreen. When I pay hundreds of dollars for an widescreen HDTV, I want my shows to fit the whole screen. The Blu-Rays are a joke because of those black borders. It's a shame that Funimation has went so cheap on both releases though. I can't even read the episode lists on some of the DVD cases because the color choices were terrible. And with so much storage on a Blu-Ray disc, Funimation just had to make a widescreen version and give us the option in the menu. But until then, I'm stuck with DVD.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:09 am

masterz13 wrote:We live in a widescreen era. That's why I go with DVD. At least that gives you an option to stretch to widescreen. When I pay hundreds of dollars for an widescreen HDTV, I want my shows to fit the whole screen. The Blu-Rays are a joke because of those black borders. It's a shame that Funimation has went so cheap on both releases though. I can't even read the episode lists on some of the DVD cases because the color choices were terrible. And with so much storage on a Blu-Ray disc, Funimation just had to make a widescreen version and give us the option in the menu. But until then, I'm stuck with DVD.
If you have indeed an HDTV you can zoom in the picture to make it look like 16:9, regardless of what it is (LD | BM | VCR | DVD | BD | GAME | PC).

That really is pointless and invalid when you have the option to do it yourself.

As for the 4x3 Blu-rays, they keep the whole image without cropping anything out, however, if you want it 16x9 do as I've said.
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:32 pm

I actually wouldn't have minded if FUNi had given us the option to watch the actual widescreen version of Kai from the Japanese broadcast, with the panned and scanned scenes and slightly extra footage and such. Not that I don't like what we have better.

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Post by The Time Traveller » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:24 pm

I don't really want to get a TV series on Bluray just yet, the only Blurays I own right now are the Ghost in the Shell 2.0/Innocence double box, the Akira BD/DVD Steelbook and 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I plan on getting the season boxes for Kai eventually, maybe when I own a PS3 or Bluray player in my room, or hopefully have a proper desktop computer with a Bluray drive. One thing I like about DVDs is that I can just pop them right in my laptop and watch them anywhere in the house, and I didn't really want to pay extra for a laptop with a bluray drive when I wouldn't even be watching stuff in full HD.

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Post by Gonstead » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:44 am

Just called into JB Hifi and they only had 1 copy of Kai part 7 on DVD while there were like 2 or 3 Blu-Ray copies on the shelf.

I guess the DVD's are more popular, at least in my area.
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Post by OutlawTorn » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:20 pm

While I haven't gotten any of the Kai releases, despite having adopted Blu-ray and will always choose a Blu-ray release over DVD unless a Blu-ray version simply does not exist, I ultimately chose the DVD release of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood due to this article.

Not being an expert on the mediums, I probably misinterpreted some of the info and may have been better of getting the Blu-ray, Then again, at the time I got Brotherhood, I had an older system which wouldn't have been able to take advantage of Blu-ray's superior quality.

Could something similar apply for Kai? If Brotherhood was animated at 540p and is a much more recent production than DBZ whose elements were used to make Kai, does that mean Kai is a form of "faux-HD"? Is Brotherhood (and, by extension, modern animation) actually limited because it is digitally recorded instead of captured on film?
masterz13 wrote: When I pay hundreds of dollars for an widescreen HDTV, I want my shows to fit the whole screen. The Blu-Rays are a joke because of those black borders.
Blu-ray preserves the proper aspect ratio. If it was produced for widescreen, it will be widescreen but if it was native 4:3 then it will be pillarboxed to prevent the picture from being distorted. It's just as wrong to crop a 4:3 program to widescreen as it is to crop a widescreen program to 4:3 pan and scan.

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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:10 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:Quite honestly, Kai does not look very good.
I think that's the end of it. If your source is bad 1920 x 1080 can only do so much for it. The Levels proved this.
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Why? Its like a 1000 times better then dvd.

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