General Yamamoto Rip off thread

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by linkdude20002001 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:13 pm

I don't really hear the second one, but the first one's pretty similar.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Gonstead » Sat May 26, 2012 3:11 am

Not sure if this is indeed a rip-off but they did sound similar.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by kei17 » Sat May 26, 2012 5:11 am

Gonstead wrote:Not sure if this is indeed a rip-off but they did sound similar.

*snip*
I don't hear any similarity between them.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sat May 26, 2012 12:21 pm

Gonstead wrote:Not sure if this is indeed a rip-off but they did sound similar.

Code Geass - The Master
Dragon Ball Kai - Destiny

I really hope not, since Code Geass is one of my most favorite Anime of all time.
Oh I definitely hear it.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sat May 26, 2012 9:52 pm

I don't think that one's a rip off....there are vague similarities but they are both still their own thing.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by SSJToreto » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:51 am

You guys have to keep in mind one fact - nothing is created in a vacuum. That is, every chord progression, motif, dramatic pause, melody has already been created before (I'm talking about the one's that actually sound good to the ear, I know that if you mash any random combination of notes together you would virtually have infinite options, though that usually doesn't produce anything listenable...)
You also have "musical cliches", composition formulas, popular verse-chorus forms, and of course most pieces use the same chord progression, but in a different key...

SO if you happen to notice similarities, it doesn't necessarily mean that the composer ripped off so-and-so.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Krax » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:27 pm

kei17 wrote:Yamamoto is listed as an arranger on Kageyama's new album. It's somewhat good to know that he is still working.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:38 pm

About Yamamoto Kai was the break card between Episode A and Episode B composed by Kenji Yamamoto and the NEP too?
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:41 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:About Yamamoto Kai was the break card between Episode A and Episode B composed by Kenji Yamamoto and the NEP too?
Those arrangements are credited to him on the soundtracks, but since the jingles themselves are taken from the series' opening and ending themes (which were not written by Kenji Yamamoto), that's probably why Toei felt safe enough to keep them a part of the show.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by kei17 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:26 am

I've found Masashi Terada, a Japanese musical composer, mentioning Yamamoto's scandal:

http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 2022618113
http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 7076283392
http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 7577732097
http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 0270833664

According to his tweets, musical arrangers in Japan regularly buy many CDs highly ranked in the Billboard charts, then take some interesting portions from them for their own works. He says Yamamoto went too far in such a practice and that made him fade from the limelight. Incidentally, he is directly acquainted with Yamamoto, and he says Yamamoto earns (or used to earn) few million yen per song.

Krax wrote:It's the main theme. Download Man called C, speed it up, and compare
Still not hearing it. Can you show me an example?

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by masterz13 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:18 am

The Victor's Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtevIlwMPEk
For the Love of a Princess (from Braveheart): http://picosong.com/w5WC/

For the Braveheart one, I sped it up to the same tempo as The Victor's Dance and transposed to the same key. It sounds pretty much identical.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by KaiserNeko » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:17 am

masterz13 wrote:The Victor's Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtevIlwMPEk
For the Love of a Princess (from Braveheart): http://picosong.com/w5WC/

For the Braveheart one, I sped it up to the same tempo as The Victor's Dance and transposed to the same key. It sounds pretty much identical.
It's funny, because The Victor's Dance sounds like an orchestral, instrumental version of the Chorus from Kusuburu Heart ni Hi wo Tsukero, Budokai 2's opening song!
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:21 pm

kei17 wrote:I've found Masashi Terada, a Japanese musical composer, mentioning Yamamoto's scandal:

http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 2022618113
http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 7076283392
http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 7577732097
http://twitter.com/BloodyDisorder/statu ... 0270833664

According to his tweets, musical arrangers in Japan regularly buy many CDs highly ranked in the Billboard charts, then take some interesting portions from them for their own works. He says Yamamoto went too far in such a practice and that made him fade from the limelight. Incidentally, he is directly acquainted with Yamamoto, and he says Yamamoto earns (or used to earn) few million yen per song.

Krax wrote:It's the main theme. Download Man called C, speed it up, and compare
Still not hearing it. Can you show me an example?
Wow, that's really interesting. I wonder if Terada knows how exactly Yamamoto was found out?
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by kei17 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:47 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Wow, that's really interesting. I wonder if Terada knows how exactly Yamamoto was found out?
From what I've read, he seems not to know detailed information about the scandal because he took sick leave for mental problems over a decade ago, and has returned to work this year.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Jord » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:58 pm

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masterz13 wrote:The Victor's Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtevIlwMPEk
For the Love of a Princess (from Braveheart): http://picosong.com/w5WC/

For the Braveheart one, I sped it up to the same tempo as The Victor's Dance and transposed to the same key. It sounds pretty much identical.
It's funny, because The Victor's Dance sounds like an orchestral, instrumental version of the Chorus from Kusuburu Heart ni Hi wo Tsukero, Budokai 2's opening song!
That is exactly what I thought. Nice to see I'm not the only one.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Hades » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:18 pm

It's like the DOOM soundtrack plagiarism all over again.
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:25 pm

Who composed the RB2 soundtrack.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by kei17 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:07 am

DarkPrince_92 wrote:Who composed the RB2 soundtrack.
Are you asking? If so, it's Yamamoto. The in-game soundtrack shares the same soundfonts with Battle of Omega, the opening song, which is confirmed to be his composition, and the entire soundtrack got replaced on all the reprints after his scandal. Also, the soundtrack CD release was cancelled.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Hades » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:29 am

kei17 wrote:
DarkPrince_92 wrote:Who composed the RB2 soundtrack.
Are you asking? If so, it's Yamamoto. The in-game soundtrack shares the same soundfonts with Battle of Omega, the opening song, which is confirmed to be his composition, and the entire soundtrack got replaced on all the reprints after his scandal. Also, the soundtrack CD release was cancelled.
So what is the replacement soundtrack for RB2?
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