Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

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Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Saiga » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:38 am

I think there isn't much to add that isn't already in the title, but I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on why Piccolo didn't enter the RoSaT a second time? After coming out, he's already aware that he's not strong enough to help, and yet he doesn't enter again despite the fact that he still has another day he can spend in there.

The only reason I can think of is that he knows that even with another year in there, he'll still be lagging behind.
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:05 am

I think we have never been given a proper answer. But it's possible Kami-sama spent some time on it, limiting the time Piccolo could be inside it.

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:31 am

Or maybe he did enter the room a second time? I don't really remember, but was it specified that he only went there once? In the guide books?Same for the others. All I remember is that we know that they each went in at least once during those 10 days and that it was only mentioned that he should go in first.

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Saiga » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:39 am

Michsi wrote:Or maybe he did enter the room a second time? I don't really remember, but was it specified that he only went there once? In the guide books?Same for the others. All I remember is that we know that they each went in at least once during those 10 days and that it was only mentioned that he should go in first.
It's possible that he did and it just wasn't mentioned. However I believe someone says that the order will go Piccolo, Vegeta, and finally Trunks, and it seems weird that no one mentions that Piccolo can go in again after Trunks is done.

On the other hand, that's something that wouldn't need to be explained to Piccolo as he'd be aware of that already. It just seems weird that there isn't any mention of him taking another turn.
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:48 am

From the Strength Checker:

Piccolo (to Goku): “Then use the Room of Spirit and Time again. We’ve got the time. We just decided on the order: I’ll go first, then Vegeta will enter alone…And then Trunks…You two can enter again after that.”

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:52 am

Saiga wrote:
Michsi wrote:Or maybe he did enter the room a second time? I don't really remember, but was it specified that he only went there once? In the guide books?Same for the others. All I remember is that we know that they each went in at least once during those 10 days and that it was only mentioned that he should go in first.
It's possible that he did and it just wasn't mentioned. However I believe someone says that the order will go Piccolo, Vegeta, and finally Trunks, and it seems weird that no one mentions that Piccolo can go in again after Trunks is done.

On the other hand, that's something that wouldn't need to be explained to Piccolo as he'd be aware of that already. It just seems weird that there isn't any mention of him taking another turn.
I think Vegeta was supposed to have been the last one, since he initially planned to use the remaining 8 days (edit: or not, as Fox666 just showed). In any case, if it wasn't specifically mentioned he went in just once I don't see why we can't assume he went in a second time, same as with Trunks and Vegeta.
Since I'm of the oppinion that he was fairly close to Vegeta and Trunks in terms of power at the Cell games, whatever he did to train, he managed to catch and keep up pretty well.
He and maybe Trunks and Vegeta too decided that Goku's approach to taking it easy and resting before the Cell games was a good idea.

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Nazi Cola » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:04 am

It's only mentioned he went in once in the timeline, and it's almost flat-out stated by him in the manga, so I just think he capped out his first try like Son Goku and Son Gohan.
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:26 am

It's only mentioned he went in once in the timeline, and it's almost flat-out stated by him in the manga,
But that's just it, it's not flat-out mentioned the he went in just once, is it? All we know is that they established an order and that each went in at least once.

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Saiga » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:01 am

Michsi wrote:
I think Vegeta was supposed to have been the last one, since he initially planned to use the remaining 8 days (edit: or not, as Fox666 just showed). In any case, if it wasn't specifically mentioned he went in just once I don't see why we can't assume he went in a second time, same as with Trunks and Vegeta.
Since I'm of the oppinion that he was fairly close to Vegeta and Trunks in terms of power at the Cell games, whatever he did to train, he managed to catch and keep up pretty well.
He and maybe Trunks and Vegeta too decided that Goku's approach to taking it easy and resting before the Cell games was a good idea.
I've always put him under 50% Goku myself, based on his conversation with Goku. Of course, if he did use the room a second time (off screen) then I'd say he'd get closer to the Saiyans.
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Bussani » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:01 am

He probably couldn't have gone in for another whole year, at least, or he wouldn't be able to enter it in the Buu saga, right?
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:53 am

Wasn't it that you could only use it 3 times in total? Or am I remebering it wrong.
And I'm not even sure that time in the Buu Saga counts.

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:08 am

He chickened out.
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:22 pm

Gokuu and Gohan declined a second trip in the RoSaT because it'd just do more harm than good and they'd intended to rest in normal conditions, so Piccolo was probably just following their example. That, and/or he knew that, even with another year inside, he still wouldn't match up to Cell. None of them (apart from Vegeta) were actually intending to fight Cell anyway (especially not the Earthlings, Tenshinhan explicitly declining a trip in the RoSaT because he couldn't keep up), as they were counting on Gokuu to defeat him.
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Bussani » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:44 pm

Michsi wrote:Wasn't it that you could only use it 3 times in total? Or am I remebering it wrong.
It's 48 hours (Earth time) total.
And I'm not even sure that time in the Buu Saga counts.
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:41 pm

Bussani wrote:It's 48 hours (Earth time) total.
I don't remember the discussion without double checking. Was it ever said if you can spend all 48 at once? Or was it no more than 24 at time before the exit will close on you?
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Michsi » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:57 pm

Bussani wrote:
Michsi wrote:Wasn't it that you could only use it 3 times in total? Or am I remebering it wrong.
It's 48 hours (Earth time) total.
That I remember,but I believe that meant you couldn't spend more than two days one after the other, because it came as a reply to Vegeta's demand to use it for the remaining 8 days. What I was referring to was that a person could not use it in total more than three times, which I thought was mentioned in the Buu saga, but now I see all that Goku said was that they shouldn't abuse it, so never mind :?
And I'm not even sure that time in the Buu Saga counts.
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I think that room was specifically designed for training and all he did was stay there for a few minutes. So technically that might not have counted.

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Fox666 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:45 am

It was said you can't spent more than two days inside of the room, or more than two people enter at the same time, otherwise the door will disappear.

Of course the two people seems to have been ignored in the Boo saga, since we had at least 4 people inside it.

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:50 am

Fox666 wrote:It was said you can't spent more than two days inside of the room, or more than two people enter at the same time, otherwise the door will disappear.

Of course the two people seems to have been ignored in the Boo saga, since we had at least 4 people inside it.
I think that was a case of Goku lying to Vegeta in order to get him to spend some time with Trunks...
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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by Fox666 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:14 am

But then why wouldn't Piccolo train with Goku and Gohan?

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Re: Why didn't Piccolo enter the RoSaT a second time?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:30 am

Perhaps Piccolo didn't want to? Vegeta and Trunks had just exited the RoSaT and were on their way to fight Cell. With Kami now inside of him, maybe he figured he should stay and watch over that battle instead of going in to train with Goku and Gohan. After all, at that point in time, no one expected Vegeta to turn into a dumbass, so as far as they knew the threat could have been taken care of very shortly.
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