DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vortex)

[Vegeta1056]

Saban now owns the CW4Kids/Toonzai block, and all of 4Kids assets. I don't know how important this could be to the block, or if it will affect DBZKai but we'll see where the show goes from there. I personally feel that it could be good news, but again lets wait and see.

[MetroidJunkie]

Saban now owns the CW4Kids/Toonzai block, and all of 4Kids assets. I don't know how important this could be to the block, or if it will affect DBZKai but we'll see where the show goes from there. I personally feel that it could be good news, but again lets wait and see.

Have his standards changed since the 'kids aren't allowed to cry' days?

[Innagadadavida]

Have his standards changed since the 'kids aren't allowed to cry' days?

... What?

[Pokewhiz7]

Have his standards changed since the 'kids aren't allowed to cry' days?

... What?

One of the edits from the ye olde 1996 dub was erasing Gohan's tears.

[MetroidJunkie]

Have his standards changed since the 'kids aren't allowed to cry' days?

... What?

The pic Pokewhiz7 posted. You think that's bad? They even censored out an imagination bubble.



4-kids DID make edits Saban didn't, like farmer with shotgun, halos, and turning Mr.Popo blue but, overall, Saban's dubs were definitely far more nonsensical. It's like he was censoring things to reach a quota.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Saban now owns the CW4Kids/Toonzai block, and all of 4Kids assets. I don't know how important this could be to the block, or if it will affect DBZKai but we'll see where the show goes from there. I personally feel that it could be good news, but again lets wait and see.

Well, not yet. That's is how it will probably turn out, but this ANN article says that other companies could still technically get the rights to the "Yu-Gi-Oh" series. As I mentioned earlier, I think this is anything but good news. A few years ago, 4Kids started posting professionally-subtitled versions of the original Japanese episodes of their properties. Saban, at least of this writing, doesn't do that. So we may have lost the only way to legally watch the "Yu-Gi-Oh" franchise subtitled. Not to mention other series.

[MetroidJunkie]

Well, not yet. That's is how it will probably turn out, but this ANN article says that other companies could still technically get the rights to the "Yu-Gi-Oh" series. As I mentioned earlier, I think this is anything but good news. A few years ago, 4Kids started posting professionally-subtitled versions of the original Japanese episodes of their properties. Saban, at least of this writing, doesn't do that. So we may have lost the only way to legally watch the "Yu-Gi-Oh" franchise subtitled. Not to mention other series.

Well, if either Funimation or ViZ actually managed to get a hold of it, atleast it would probably have a decent enough dub that most people wouldn't need a subtitled version.

[Vegeta1056]

Saban now owns the CW4Kids/Toonzai block, and all of 4Kids assets. I don't know how important this could be to the block, or if it will affect DBZKai but we'll see where the show goes from there. I personally feel that it could be good news, but again lets wait and see.

Well, not yet. That's is how it will probably turn out, but this ANN article says that other companies could still technically get the rights to the "Yu-Gi-Oh" series. As I mentioned earlier, I think this is anything but good news. A few years ago, 4Kids started posting professionally-subtitled versions of the original Japanese episodes of their properties. Saban, at least of this writing, doesn't do that. So we may have lost the only way to legally watch the "Yu-Gi-Oh" franchise subtitled. Not to mention other series.

I beg to differ. Read down to the 4Kids section in this article: http://blog.samuraicast.com/rangercrew- ... megaforce/

Also you guys do know FUNimation did the editing and not Saban right? XD

[MetroidJunkie]

Also you guys do know FUNimation did the editing and not Saban right? XD

Wasn't Saban telling them to do it, though? They blamed the FCC but then later admitted they were forced to edit it beyond what the FCC would've required.

[DBZAOTA482]

Have his standards changed since the 'kids aren't allowed to cry' days?

... What?

The pic Pokewhiz7 posted. You think that's bad? They even censored out an imagination bubble.

Zwonks! Children might get influenced to think and children aren't supposed to think. -Saban

[kei17]

I got some episodes of the Toonzai version thanks to Takarajima. I noticed that they screwed up Ginyu Force's introduction scene during the process of music replacement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b0SzaLnRBI

[Pokewhiz7]

Did they add some weird echoing effect to their voices also?

[kei17]

Did they add some weird echoing effect to their voices also?

Instead, they seem to have removed the center channel of the voices, so only echoing sounds were remained.

[Gonstead]

I got some episodes of the Toonzai version thanks to Takarajima. I noticed that they screwed up Ginyu Force's introduction scene during the process of music replacement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b0SzaLnRBI

This makes me want to see the Dub Ginyu Force with Tokusentai playing instead of Ginyu Force Rules.

[SilverPlaqueVII]

Guys, i'm watching episode 31 of 52 now on TV. No wonder Toonzai / CW4Kds lacks episodes 53-97 (perhaps 98?) IMO, Toonzai has way more commercials than like Nicktoons which the Japanese airs ads like 1-2 mins. I wonder that's gonna be stuck with KidsCo after the 4Kids split.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Guys, i'm watching episode 31 of 52 now on TV. No wonder Toonzai / CW4Kds lacks episodes 53-97 (perhaps 98?) IMO, Toonzai has way more commercials than like Nicktoons which the Japanese airs ads like 1-2 mins. I wonder that's gonna be stuck with KidsCo after the 4Kids split.

I don't want to speak for certain having never actually watched a show while in Japan...'cause I've, 'ya know, never been to Japan...but I don't see how it's possible that they could only have a 1-2 minute advertising block. DBZ (and by extension, Kai) episodes are still 20-22 minutes long. I was under the impression that they had programming blocks in increments of half-hours like us, it's just that their commercial structure is such that rather than having three commercial breaks scattered throughout a half-hour show, they have only have one giant 8-10 minute commercial break that happens halfway through an episode.

I could be wrong, of course, and if I am, someone feel free to correct me, but that's how I thought it was. I would prefer one giant commercial break over a bunch of smaller ones, personally. Less interruptions, and the one interruption there is would act as an intermission of sorts to go get a snack or take care of other small matters.

EDIT: Wait a minute...did you mean that they have the same amount of adverting time, but that each individual commercial is 1-2 minutes long? That could be, I wouldn't know.

[theawesomepossum777]

I got some episodes of the Toonzai version thanks to Takarajima. I noticed that they screwed up Ginyu Force's introduction scene during the process of music replacement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b0SzaLnRBI

This makes me want to see the Dub Ginyu Force with Tokusentai playing instead of Ginyu Force Rules.

But really, who would screw the music replacement so bad that both the English and Japanese versions of the song are playing at the same time? It sounds so weird...

[Cure Dragon 255]

I hope Saban will give DBZKai tons of promotion!

[[SP]]

I just found out that 4kids' DBZ Kai Episode Section isn't region locked... So I, as an Australian that does not get the CW overseas, sat and watched a couple episodes... And I must say, it is hilarious how many further cuts the script gets to remove any references to death, and even the obscure allusions are cut...
And also, Blue Popo is ... uh, quite something!

[Cure Dragon 255]

I really hope Saban will buy the Second Season of DBZKai.