Was there a scene in DB's World that made you cry?

[LiamKav]

When Goten meets Goku for the first time. Easy to relate to.

I dunno about you, but I bet the situation of a father meeting his son for the first time because he'd spent the first few years of the kid's life dead is not the sort of thing that happens to most people.

To be fair, it's a nice scene, but I can't watch it without thinking that the whole situation was just NOT NECESSARY, as Goku was only dead for a stupid arse reason that anyone with 5 seconds could have argued against. It's his decision that he never saw his second son grow up.

[Necrosaber]

I didn't see my father for a big chunk of my early childhood due to issues with his legal status in this country. That seen just hits me hard.

[Piccolo Daimao]

When Goten meets Goku for the first time. Easy to relate to.

I dunno about you, but I bet the situation of a father meeting his son for the first time because he'd spent the first few years of the kid's life dead is not the sort of thing that happens to most people.

To be fair, it's a nice scene, but I can't watch it without thinking that the whole situation was just NOT NECESSARY, as Goku was only dead for a stupid arse reason that anyone with 5 seconds could have argued against. It's his decision that he never saw his second son grow up.

I think they mean relatable in the sense of a father and son meeting for the first time.

And Gokuu was dead because he sacrificed himself to save Cell from self-destructing and destroying Earth, and he couldn't be wished back because it was beyond Shenlong's power to revive a person who'd died once before.

[penguintruth]

The English dub makes me cry, but for a different reason than you're thinking.

(I wept tears of joy at the Kai dub.)

[Cipher]

For my money, if you want to talk subtlety or real emotion in Dragon Ball at all, the only scene worth looking at is the conversation between Goku, Kuririn and Kame-Sennin at the end of GT.

It doesn't make me cry, but I think it's hands down the most honest and emotional scene in the franchise. Everything else is just melodrama.

[LiamKav]

And Gokuu was dead because he sacrificed himself to save Cell from self-destructing and destroying Earth, and he couldn't be wished back because it was beyond Shenlong's power to revive a person who'd died once before.

Well, no, they talked about using the Namekian Dragonballs, but Goku argued that he was a magnet for trouble and so should stay dead. Never mind that that argument fell apart after just the tiniest bit of inspection (Freeza came to Earth to kill him. If Goku wasn't there, he would have blown up the planet anyway. Gero created the artificial humans to punish Goku for what he'd done to the Red Ribbon army, but if he wasn't there then Gero would have just taken over the world anyway. Goku not being there would have made the situation worse).

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

And Gokuu was dead because he sacrificed himself to save Cell from self-destructing and destroying Earth, and he couldn't be wished back because it was beyond Shenlong's power to revive a person who'd died once before.

Well, no, they talked about using the Namekian Dragonballs, but Goku argued that he was a magnet for trouble and so should stay dead. Never mind that that argument fell apart after just the tiniest bit of inspection (Freeza came to Earth to kill him. If Goku wasn't there, he would have blown up the planet anyway. Gero created the artificial humans to punish Goku for what he'd done to the Red Ribbon army, but if he wasn't there then Gero would have just taken over the world anyway. Goku not being there would have made the situation worse).

But both of those threats had already been dealt with; with Piccolo good every possible villainous thread Goku could have left had been cleared up.

[Necrosaber]

For my money, if you want to talk subtlety or real emotion in Dragon Ball at all, the only scene worth looking at is the conversation between Goku, Kuririn and Kame-Sennin at the end of GT.

It doesn't make me cry, but I think it's hands down the most honest and emotional scene in the franchise. Everything else is just melodrama.

The final episode really did have some top-notch writing.

[Piccolo Daimao]

And Gokuu was dead because he sacrificed himself to save Cell from self-destructing and destroying Earth, and he couldn't be wished back because it was beyond Shenlong's power to revive a person who'd died once before.

Well, no, they talked about using the Namekian Dragonballs, but Goku argued that he was a magnet for trouble and so should stay dead. Never mind that that argument fell apart after just the tiniest bit of inspection (Freeza came to Earth to kill him. If Goku wasn't there, he would have blown up the planet anyway. Gero created the artificial humans to punish Goku for what he'd done to the Red Ribbon army, but if he wasn't there then Gero would have just taken over the world anyway. Goku not being there would have made the situation worse).

They never talked about using the Namekian Dragon Balls. After they tried to wish him back with the Earth DBs anyway, they just stood around saying, "What should we do?" Then Gokuu interjected and told them to not bother wishing him back because he was a magnet for trouble (which is bullshit, because he later adds that he gets to keep his body and fight all the greatest martial arts masters in the afterlife; that's the real reason, he's bored of Earth and wants to seek out new challenges in another world).

[DoomieDoomie911]

To be quite honest the end of GT made me shed a couple tears... It was the flashback of different pinpoints of the series just before he flies off... So sad....

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the tragedy scenes in Trunks special. When Goku died from heart virus that made everything looked hopeless, it hits me pretty hard every time I watch it. It makes me feel very sad thinking that Gohan showed up only to see his father dead, and he didn't live up to see his son become a man.

Having seeing Gohan perished and Trunks' painful cry has left me a lot of tears when I was teenager. It was just tragedy. Trunks lost his best friend. Don't forget about Chi Chi. She lost her husband and now her son. She never had a chance to see her son become scholar, let alone living in peace with her family and friends.

The Trunks special was a very emotional movie. The TV series' tragedies were nothing like the Trunks special.

[DBZAOTA482]

Yeah, it's also overrall better made than the manga version.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Yeah, when I watched that scene of Trunks running over to Gohan's dead body in the rain, tearfully screaming, and then finally transforming...I was, like, "Dude..." Kusao's acting was top-notch.

[DBZAOTA482]

It especially hits since Gohan won't be able to come back.

[LiamKav]

It especially hits since Gohan won't be able to come back.

Which is what ruins most of the other deaths in the series. Even for Vegeta's first death, I was thinking "well, you could just wish him back, couldn't you?"

Besides, once you've shown that heaven is a place where good guys get to keep their bodies and act as they do on Earth, it stops death from meaning a great deal.

[soulnova]

Son Gohan meeting Goku at Baba's.

Piccoro's sacrifice for Gohan.

I don't like GT but I accept that they DID manage to do some very emotional scenes. The final episode I felt my heart hurting really bad. And even if I didn't like Goku Jr, the special was quite good too. I'll give them that.

And GT's last freaking ending song was truly a nostalgia bomb... looking at Goku walking and walking, growing up and turning around to meet his friends, it's just... *sniff* dammit...

[Piccolo Daimao]

It especially hits since Gohan won't be able to come back.

Which is what ruins most of the other deaths in the series. Even for Vegeta's first death, I was thinking "well, you could just wish him back, couldn't you?"

Well, not necessarily. Vegeta was a bad guy, and I doubt anyone actually wanted him alive. He just happened to get bundled in with the others who'd recently been killed by Freeza and his men, due to the poor wording of the wish. They should've just said, "Revive all those who'd been killed by Freeza and his men, except the bad guys!" But I guess that wasn't on their mind in all the chaos.

Besides, once you've shown that heaven is a place where good guys get to keep their bodies and act as they do on Earth, it stops death from meaning a great deal.

Well, Gokuu only ever said that really good guys would get to keep their bodies and train with masters in the afterlife after he died in the Cell arc. Beforehand, the assumption was that the heroes were granted their bodies by God just so they could train for a future threat and/or until they got brought back.

But the fact that the Dragon Balls can just wish people back to life, the ones on Namek can wish you back no matter how many times you died, it does demean the whole impact somewhat, to the point that Piccolo goads Boo into killing the rest of Earth's population to stall time for Goten and Trunks, with the knowledge that he can just restore them to life anyway.

[LiamKav]

Well, not necessarily. Vegeta was a bad guy, and I doubt anyone actually wanted him alive. He just happened to get bundled in with the others who'd recently been killed by Freeza and his men, due to the poor wording of the wish. They should've just said, "Revive all those who'd been killed by Freeza and his men, except the bad guys!" But I guess that wasn't on their mind in all the chaos.

Oh, I get that he was bought back by mistake. But after Goku's big speech and making him a grave with Awesome Eye Beams... well, it was moving, but also a bit "well, shit or get off the pot. If you miss him that much, go and bring him back to life."

Well, Gokuu only ever said that really good guys would get to keep their bodies and train with masters in the afterlife after he died in the Cell arc. Beforehand, the assumption was that the heroes were granted their bodies by God just so they could train for a future threat and/or until they got brought back.

But the fact that the Dragon Balls can just wish people back to life, the ones on Namek can wish you back no matter how many times you died, it does demean the whole impact somewhat, to the point that Piccolo goads Boo into killing the rest of Earth's population to stall time for Goten and Trunks, with the knowledge that he can just restore them to life anyway.

Yeah. It was a gradual eroding of the seriousness of death. It's funny when you watch Kuririn's first death, and how everyone is extremely depressed, and even after they plan on bringing him back there's worries about storing his body, and everyone acts very glum and down about the whole situation. Fast forward to the middle of Z and it's like "eh, we'll just wish them back, no biggie." Like, why was anyone saying AT ALL that if Goku died they wouldn't be able to wish him back, when we'd just had a massive story-arc about the character's hunting for another set of Dragon Balls that had the extra bonus of being able to revive people more than once?

[Aoi]

2 moments for me, when Tao Pai Pai kille's Upa's father. That whole mini arc was so wonderful. Especially the moment where Goku looks at the grave and decides to climb Karin's tower. Just wonderful. Even as an adult it gets to me. For some reason, Goku charging the Super Genki Dama vs. Buu , and the Goku/Gohan Kamehameha vs. Cell. There are many others. The end of GT is heart wrenching, especially when Krillin/Goku/Roshi talking for the last time. Just so genuine and pure.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well, not necessarily. Vegeta was a bad guy, and I doubt anyone actually wanted him alive. He just happened to get bundled in with the others who'd recently been killed by Freeza and his men, due to the poor wording of the wish. They should've just said, "Revive all those who'd been killed by Freeza and his men, except the bad guys!" But I guess that wasn't on their mind in all the chaos.

Oh, I get that he was bought back by mistake. But after Goku's big speech and making him a grave with Awesome Eye Beams... well, it was moving, but also a bit "well, shit or get off the pot. If you miss him that much, go and bring him back to life."

I know that, just that I never thought Gokuu really cared for Vegeta or missed him, just that he respected him as a Saiyan warrior.

Well, Gokuu only ever said that really good guys would get to keep their bodies and train with masters in the afterlife after he died in the Cell arc. Beforehand, the assumption was that the heroes were granted their bodies by God just so they could train for a future threat and/or until they got brought back.

But the fact that the Dragon Balls can just wish people back to life, the ones on Namek can wish you back no matter how many times you died, it does demean the whole impact somewhat, to the point that Piccolo goads Boo into killing the rest of Earth's population to stall time for Goten and Trunks, with the knowledge that he can just restore them to life anyway.

Yeah. It was a gradual eroding of the seriousness of death. It's funny when you watch Kuririn's first death, and how everyone is extremely depressed, and even after they plan on bringing him back there's worries about storing his body, and everyone acts very glum and down about the whole situation. Fast forward to the middle of Z and it's like "eh, we'll just wish them back, no biggie." Like, why was anyone saying AT ALL that if Goku died they wouldn't be able to wish him back, when we'd just had a massive story-arc about the character's hunting for another set of Dragon Balls that had the extra bonus of being able to revive people more than once?

You mean in the Cell arc? Yeah, it's funny that no-one at all mentioned just hopping off to Namek (even if their spaceship had been destroyed or Dr. Brief/Blooma couldn't make another one, they could just use Gokuu's teleportation), but Gokuu probably interjected before anyone could come up with it.

And then Kuririn wasted a wish on removing #18's bomb rather than attempting to restore #16. Even if a machine technically doesn't have a life to revive, they could've at least wished to put his broken pieces back together and Blooma could try to boost him back to working conditions, or failing that, actually get their butts back to the battlefield, look for his parts, and put him back together. But no, they just left him in the dust, while everyone and their dog can get killed and brought back like it's fucking Groundhog Day.