If DB Characters are in the next Smash Bros...

[Taku128]

Oh, when you include R.O.B. you've long since hit bottom.

Yeah, R.O.B. totally isn't an important part of Nintendo history and an awesome inclusion.

I take this is sarcasm, right? Well, I wouldn't say R.O.B is important at all to Nintendo's history, just some gimmicky accessory to the NES that barely even worked, and if it did, you only had 2 games for it. But I did like how they added him in Brawl, kinda cool for them to harken back to some long forgotten 80's retro junk!

After the video game crash caused by Atari flooding the market with piss-poor games that people returned to stores en masse, most retailers didn't want to ever stock another video game system again. Nintendo designed R.O.B. as a trojan horse to get console into stores, saying that it wasn't a video game system, it was a robot toy. Turns out it was a really shitty robot toy, but it got consoles into peoples homes and allowed the Nintendo Entertainment System to become a phenomenon and re-established the video game market in North America.

R.O.B is an integral part of the Nintendo Entertainment System's success, and without R.O.B. there would be no North American video game market, or at least a very different one than the one we know today. Maybe ZX Spectrum would've made some bizarre move allowing it to take off in America like it did Europe. Either way we wouldn't even be having this conversation because most of us probably wouldn't even know what Nintendo is.

EDIT: SO HOW 'BOUT THAT GOKU GUY. WHAT A CHARACTER HE IS. 100% ON TOPIC OVER HERE. YEP.

[SSJmole]

Please, there has been more great Dragon Ball games in the last decade than great Sonic games.

Not really. No dragonball game has been "great" but sonic has had great games. Like Sonic 2. However Sonic was not added because he's so popular now, he was added because the Sonic vs Mario , Sega vs Nintendo days had more of on an impact on gaming than anything Dragonball related. Plus fans still wanted to live out the "Sonic vs Mario" dream fight.

Like if there was an Anime related fighting game (i know there has been.) DBZ vs Bleach or DBZ vs Naruto are both dream matches. It's like WWE Allstars. Hulk Hogan was not in it because he is so good at wrestling (he's not) He was in it for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LKT9big9nI While i don't like either i can see that as dream match and hogan is an icon in wrestling.

Sonic IS an icon in gaming. Sure the modern stuff is not as good (though generations was fun) But a game about video game characters fighting, Sonic ABSOLUTELY belongs on the roster before any Anime character.

[dbboxkaifan]

Please, there has been more great Dragon Ball games in the last decade than great Sonic games.

Sorry, but what you said isn't true.

Here's a list:

• 01. Sonic
• 02. Sonic 2
• 03. Sonic 3
• 04. Sonic & Knuckles
• 05. Sonic CD
• 06. Sonic Triple Trouble
• 07. Sonic Advance
• 08. Sonic Advance 2
• 09. Sonic Advance 3
• 10. Sonic Rush
• 11. Sonic Rush Adventure
• 12. Sonic 3D
• 13. Sonic Adventure
• 14. Sonic Adventure 2
• 15. Sonic and the Secret Rings
• 16. Sonic Unleashed (Day Stages)
• 17. Sonic and the Black Knight
• 18. Sonic Colours
• 19. Sonic Riders
• 20. Sonic Spinball
• 21. Sonic Battle
• 22. Sonic R
• 23. Sonic IV Episode II

It's illogical to compare Sonic to Dragon Ball, it's like comparing a decent outdated browser IE6 to a broken one (PS3's browser).

Edit: Despite the slowness of Sonic 4 Episode 2 it's actually a pretty good game.

[Pokewhiz7]

I think he meant Sonic games in the last decade, not in general.

[012yArthur0]

But as he stated, Sonic is a icon in gaming. What he did on the past is enough to be implemented in the Smash Bros. While DBZ games is solely for the fans, frankly. I'll still have to see someone talk about DBZ games around.

I don't think Goku will be on the Smash Bros, neither do I agree. The only possiblity of a character that can enter is Kid Goku from the Dragon Ball.

[mysticboy]

Please, there has been more great Dragon Ball games in the last decade than great Sonic games.

Sorry, but what you said isn't true.

Here's a list:

Last decade = 2000-2010. Good Sonic games during that time:
Sonic Heroes
Unleashed
Colors

Super Saiyan Prime is right.

[Cipher]

There's a bigger chance of me directing a sequel to Dragon Ball Evolution than there is of any Dragon Ball material being in a Smash Bros. game.

So there's still a chance?

[Pokewhiz7]

Please, there has been more great Dragon Ball games in the last decade than great Sonic games.

Sorry, but what you said isn't true.

Here's a list:

Last decade = 2000-2010. Good Sonic games during that time:
Sonic Heroes
Unleashed
Colors

Super Saiyan Prime is right.

Sonic Adventure 2?

[012yArthur0]

Please, there has been more great Dragon Ball games in the last decade than great Sonic games.

Sorry, but what you said isn't true.

Here's a list:

Last decade = 2000-2010. Good Sonic games during that time:
Sonic Heroes
Unleashed
Colors

Super Saiyan Prime is right.

Not really. DBZ games aren't one of the best games, and Sonic (on the Gold era) was doing things perfectly.

DBZ games are made solely to please the fans and try to leech a bit more money, and nothing more than that. Proof: There's at least 1 DBZ game every year. Seriously.

Try to say one DBZ game that actually was made to be played by other people than the fans themselves.

[DBZAOTA482]

Last decade = 2000-2010. Good Sonic games during that time:
Sonic Heroes
Unleashed
Colors

Super Saiyan Prime is right.

Not really. DBZ games aren't one of the best games, and Sonic (on the Gold era) was doing things perfectly.

DBZ games are made solely to please the fans and try to leech a bit more money, and nothing more than that. Proof: There's at least 1 DBZ game every year. Seriously.

Try to say one DBZ game that actually was made to be played by other people than the fans themselves.

The Budokai series
Supersonic Warriors 1 & 2
Super Dragon Ball Z

[012yArthur0]

Last decade = 2000-2010. Good Sonic games during that time:
Sonic Heroes
Unleashed
Colors

Super Saiyan Prime is right.

Not really. DBZ games aren't one of the best games, and Sonic (on the Gold era) was doing things perfectly.

DBZ games are made solely to please the fans and try to leech a bit more money, and nothing more than that. Proof: There's at least 1 DBZ game every year. Seriously.

Try to say one DBZ game that actually was made to be played by other people than the fans themselves.

The Budokai series
Supersonic Warriors 1 & 2
Super Dragon Ball Z

While can I agree with Supersonic Warriores 1 and 2. Super Dragon Ball and Budokai is just "for the fans that want some basic competitive gaming". There games that does it and does it better.

[DarkPrince_92]

Nah i think Super DBZ at least is trying to appeal to fighting gamers in general with it's Street fighter style controls.

[mysticboy]

Sonic Adventure 2?

That too.

[dbboxkaifan]

Sonic Adventure 2 is getting revived this year, it'll be released on the 3rd October 2012.



Screenshots of the gameplay and more info available here: http://digiex.net/content/355-sonic-adv ... r-3rd.html

Sega has made a lot of bad decisions throughtout the years with Sonic games, but they seem to finally be stable and see what the fans/gamers actually want, and this is how Namco Bandai should be too. Which is, remastering old Dragon Ball video games in HD or just releasing them as it is, in SD.

Games I'd like to see on Xbox 360 | PS3 | Wii U, would be:
Dragon Ball Advance Adventures
Budokai
Budokai 2
Budokai 3
Infinite World
Super DBZ
Legacy of Goku
Supersonic Warriors
Supersonic Warriors 2
Ultimate Butouden

But well, this is no more than just a fan-list which is very unlikely to ever become reality, unless Namco Bandai thinks of it and sees profit in it.

Physical copies would probably be more lucrative for them than digital, though, digital copies could end up a bit cheaper. Like, DB Advance Adventures for 800 MSP and whatnot.

[mysticboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hit0_YO8c8I
A hack for SSB with anime characters.

[Taku128]

Sorry, but what you said isn't true.

Here's a list:

Last decade = 2000-2010. Good Sonic games during that time:
Sonic Heroes
Unleashed
Colors

I was going to point out that a decade could just be the last ten years (2003-2012), but then I noticed this. The hell is wrong with you.

Also the only good Dragon Ball game to be released in America was Advance Adventure. None of the others are fun to anyone who isn't already a fan.

[mysticboy]

I was going to point out that a decade could just be the last ten years (2003-2012), but then I noticed this. The hell is wrong with you.

Also the only good Dragon Ball game to be released in America was Advance Adventure. None of the others are fun to anyone who isn't already a fan.

Heroe was ok. It wasn't the greatest ever or anything.

[Taku128]

I was going to point out that a decade could just be the last ten years (2003-2012), but then I noticed this. The hell is wrong with you.

Also the only good Dragon Ball game to be released in America was Advance Adventure. None of the others are fun to anyone who isn't already a fan.

Heroe was ok. It wasn't the greatest ever or anything.

You must not have played Heroes since it came out, because it was twenty hours of killing a million enemies with gigantic health-bars and piss-poor level design. It's barely above Sonic 2006 in terms of quality. Also I thought it was supposed to be a list of good games, not "well it wasn't that bad" games.

[ShadowDude112]

Also, Sonic Adventure 2 isn't that good. Seriously. The only good parts are the Sonic and Shadow levels and they only have 5 levels. Even though the other characters have 5 levels as well, 10 levels of actual fun compared to 20 levels of not fun is saying something. Oh, also where's Generations on those lists? That game was awesome and you're stupid if you think otherwise.

[mysticboy]

You must not have played Heroes since it came out, because it was twenty hours of killing a million enemies with gigantic health-bars and piss-poor level design. It's barely above Sonic 2006 in terms of quality. Also I thought it was supposed to be a list of good games, not "well it wasn't that bad" games.

Oh well