DBZ Budokai HD Collection: Official On-Going Thread

[funrush]

Yeah but Bandai Namco are going to waste time and money on re-releasing a game that most people didn't like.

Why exactly did people detest IW?

IW did have some fun mini-games like running on the Snake Road, collecting stars (or Dragon Balls), catching Bubbles..

From what I've been told that IW really added anything new other then a few new characters and that they made the game is so hard. I remember reading that they took them like six months to create the game which could explain why the story mode is so lack luster and why the game was so cheap when it was first released. They most likely used Paikuhan's and Janemba's character models from Shin Budokai since it uses the same game engine as Budokai 3. They most likely used the unused characters for Super 17 and Bebi Vegeta for the game since it seems like they where plan for Budokai 3 going by the voice files in the dragon universe mode.

Mostly becasue:
A: Some of the minigames were annoying (Piccolo and Cell one for example)
B: They didn't add 19, Zarbon and Dodoria, but instead Pan, Baby, and Super 17 who most care considerably less about.
C: Unless you used the 7 Health, and the Roast Chicken capsule, it was shit-your-pants difficult from Freeza on for most people.

I actually enjoyed IW though. Classic Budokai-style cutscenes were pretty sweet.

I'll buy this HD collection when
1. Price goes down to $20 or less
2. My Budokai and Budokai 3 discs stop working, which will probably be in 2-3 years.

[Bluebolt]

Hey Mike, I don't want to come off as pessimistic but how does the license for DBZ games work? I mean when will NB lose it? Sorry if anyone likes them.

Also have you done the podcast/article on the history of DBZ games yet? (I think you mentioned it before on a podcast).

-Thanks

[VegettoEX]

We really have no idea how the license for this stuff works in Japan. It's not like North America, and especially when it's with publicly traded companies, where that info is tied in with shareholder reports. Namco-Bandai in Japan could have the lifetime exclusive license to Dragon Ball via Shueisha, it could be tied to financial projections/commitments/guarantees, it could be a yearly renewal... we don't really have any solid facts.

I don't think we've done anything super solid and concise on the history of the games via the podcast (we've done things like how to play import games, what it was like during 1997, etc.), but we have some pretty awesome stuff in that department coming up soon .

[dbboxkaifan]

Hey Mike, I don't want to come off as pessimistic but how does the license for DBZ games work? I mean when will NB lose it? Sorry if anyone likes them.

The only possible fans that Namco Bandai might have are those who adore Budokai Tenkaichi / Raging Blast because Dimps' DB games are almost dead (last game they produced was in 2008) for except this revival.

Anyway, does Namco Bandai have a deal with France (AB Groupe?) to go there for their annual Dragon Ball releases?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The only possible fans that Namco Bandai might have are those who adore Budokai Tenkaichi / Raging Blast because Dimps' DB games are almost dead (last game they produced was in 2008) for except this revival.

We can't possibly just like them because the Budokai games are boring to play and DBZ feels extremely limited as a 2D fighter instead of a 3D simulator, huh?

[dbboxkaifan]

I kinda forgot.

Namco Bandai, well, Dimps is still my favourite DB game producer, my favourite games are all thanks to them.

DB: Advanced Adventure
DBZ: Burst Limit
DBGT: (doesn't exist)

I can't imagine Burst Limit with any other music than the original by Kenji Yamamoto.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

DBGT: (doesn't exist)

Yes it does.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... gt_box.jpg

...I got to say, I'm surprised at how enthused I am towards this. I can't say I'm pumped because I'd still prefer something new and fresh but this is the first time since 2009 I've been willing to buy a Dragonball game. The sad thing is I already own both these titles. Really it all boils down to the price. If they can throw out a $40 price tag(or lower) I'd probably cave; online multiplayer would be a nice icing on the cake.

[mattymoron]

I WOULD have considered buying this had they included Budokai 2.

[dbboxkaifan]

DBGT: (doesn't exist)

Yes it does.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... gt_box.jpg

...I got to say, I'm surprised at how enthused I am towards this. I can't say I'm pumped because I'd still prefer something new and fresh but this is the first time since 2009 I've been willing to buy a Dragonball game. The sad thing is I already own both these titles. Really it all boils down to the price. If they can throw out a $40 price tag(or lower) I'd probably cave; online multiplayer would be a nice icing on the cake.

Other than the US version which is titled "Dragon Ball GT: Final Bout" elsewhere it's just "Dragon Ball: Final Bout". Still no official GT game (unless you count the GBA game which covers GT's story).

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Yeah, in Japan there is no Dragon Ball GT game.

[MCDaveG]

Dammit, really. I've imported Budokai 1 and 2 because of Chala Head Chala and japanese voices + those bonuses in Budokai 2 (Neko Majin and Kuriza) from Japan and got Greatest Hits version of 3, so I dunno. I would mind buying it if it was all three + maybe Infinite World as nice bonus or if they do some new game which will merge these together with some new modes, like Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3.......
I'll go for that Kinect only probably.

If they are aiming for players in general than okay, but if they are going for hardcore base than they are probably slightly retarded with all they are doing on the last batch of consoles.

[dbboxkaifan]

Wouldn't the Japanese version of "Dragon Ball Z HD Collection" (guessing it's gonna be called like this since the original Dragon Ball Z Budokai titles were) have Kikuchi's synthesized soundtrack?

It'd be way better than what the international version has right now, which is a mix of the BT3 crappy soundtrack and a newly composed score based on this.

Dragon Ball Z: Budokai HD Collection - Goku Vs. Tenshinhan

Ah yes, while I didn't find "Dragon Ball Z HD Collection" up for pre-orders on Amazon.co.jp there's Dragon Ball Z For Kinect.

[Rukura]

Wouldn't the Japanese version of "Dragon Ball Z HD Collection" (guessing it's gonna be called like this since the original Dragon Ball Z Budokai titles were) have Kikuchi's synthesized soundtrack?

Probably not, since the Sparking(/Raging Blast/Ultimate Blast) games were always the only ones that had it. I'd totally buy that, though.

[dbboxkaifan]

The old Budokai 1 PAL didn't have CHA LA HEAD CHA LA, anyone knows why? PAL kept all of the blood scenes or were a few edited out (like on Gohan's arm a bit of blood while saving Vejita from being killed by Cell)?

But it still featured the original Japanese cast which the US version only had the English FUNimation dub.

[Rukura]

The old Budokai 1 PAL didn't have CHA LA HEAD CHA LA, anyone knows why?

It was a rights thing. We didn't get it for Super Dragon Ball Z and Budokai Tenkaichi 1 either (and We Gotta Power on Budokai Tenkaichi 2, if I didn't switch those). It wasn't until Ultimate Tenkaichi that they bothered to cough up the money to get it in the western releases.

[Quebaz]

The old Budokai 1 PAL didn't have CHA LA HEAD CHA LA, anyone knows why? PAL kept all of the blood scenes or were a few edited out (like on Gohan's arm a bit of blood while saving Vejita from being killed by Cell)?

But it still featured the original Japanese cast which the US version only had the English FUNimation dub.

The PAL version didn't have Blood, instead they showed us dirt. And the subtitles were funny actually like Goku super mad at Nappa calling him meanie. I guess the opening wasn't CHA LA HEAD CHA LA because I guess most of the countries didn't use it.

[MCDaveG]

The old Budokai 1 PAL didn't have CHA LA HEAD CHA LA, anyone knows why? PAL kept all of the blood scenes or were a few edited out (like on Gohan's arm a bit of blood while saving Vejita from being killed by Cell)?

But it still featured the original Japanese cast which the US version only had the English FUNimation dub.

The PAL version didn't have Blood, instead they showed us dirt. And the subtitles were funny actually like Goku super mad at Nappa calling him meanie. I guess the opening wasn't CHA LA HEAD CHA LA because I guess most of the countries didn't use it.

That's not it, it was the music rights probably, which got cleared out trough the years, but still, no-one outside of Japan can have Kikuchi.
Chala Head Chala was opening in Germany and all the Spain provinces and states, only France didn't had it.
The PAL version had that alternate opening which is on the Japanese and also probably the US version too, with that kanji symbols and in-game footage and some Kikuchi instrumental.

[Quebaz]

That's not it, it was the music rights probably, which got cleared out trough the years, but still, no-one outside of Japan can have Kikuchi.
Chala Head Chala was opening in Germany and all the Spain provinces and states, only France didn't had it.
The PAL version had that alternate opening which is on the Japanese and also probably the US version too, with that kanji symbols and in-game footage and some Kikuchi instrumental.

The music from the opening is in the game indeed, It's in the duel version of the stage where you battle Raditz.
The opening itself is composed by scenes of the Story Mode (which seems to have a beta version of the cutscene where Vegeta goes Super Saiyan).

But didn't the ending had a instrumental version of Chala Head Chala? I guess it was composed by Yamamoto then.

[dbboxkaifan]

So no CHA LA HEAD CHA LA and no blood instead it was mud, huh, darn it.

Oh well, in this HD Collection I just have to hope they've kept all of the game's original content, except the music, but just load up from your custom soundtrack (USB/HDD) and it's as good as the original, maybe even better because now's in HD.

[batistabus]

While I loved the Budokai games (especially 3), I'm definitely going to pass on this. I still have a perfectly functional PS2 and three (don't ask) copies of the game. With no online and graphics that show virtually no improvement (besides resolution), I have zero interest in this game.

On the bright side, at least this could be a sign that they're moving away from the Sparking engine. Maybe if this does well enough, we'll see a Burst Limit 2 or something of the sort.