Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
-
DoomieDoomie911
- OMG CRAZY REGEN
- Posts: 981
- Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 2:12 pm
- Location: United States
Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
We already know that he can be killed, but can he die of old age? Didn't he drink some kind of immortality potion or something? He was already a 100 or older when he met Goku.... So can he live forever...?
She/her (I have a Twitter account now.)Cipher wrote:Dragon Ball is the story of a kind-hearted, excitable child who uses the power of friendship to improve those around him as he grows into a dangerous obsessive who sometimes accidentally saves the world.
-
DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
He was supposed to have drunken the Fountain of Youth, but later confirmed that it wasn't true. He and his sister Uranai Baba were still alive in DBO, which is set 216 years after the manga. I think Baba was over 220 years old when we first saw her, and she was a witch, so it seems their parents were supernatural beings too.
So can he die from old age? Nah, I don't think so.
So can he die from old age? Nah, I don't think so.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
-
DoomieDoomie911
- OMG CRAZY REGEN
- Posts: 981
- Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 2:12 pm
- Location: United States
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Ok thanks! And I didn't know Baba was that old. 
It would have been cool to see their parents or something.
It would have been cool to see their parents or something.She/her (I have a Twitter account now.)Cipher wrote:Dragon Ball is the story of a kind-hearted, excitable child who uses the power of friendship to improve those around him as he grows into a dangerous obsessive who sometimes accidentally saves the world.
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
So we're not citing the DBGT Special as canon? Because if so, he does die.
Innagadadavida wrote:Because not everybody enjoys torture porn with horrible art.
-
DoomieDoomie911
- OMG CRAZY REGEN
- Posts: 981
- Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 2:12 pm
- Location: United States
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Well would it be canon? I thought that every movie except Bardock and History of Trunks was not considered canon, and was considered to be a "what-if" story per-say.Rostir wrote:So we're not citing the DBGT Special as canon? Because if so, he does die.
She/her (I have a Twitter account now.)Cipher wrote:Dragon Ball is the story of a kind-hearted, excitable child who uses the power of friendship to improve those around him as he grows into a dangerous obsessive who sometimes accidentally saves the world.
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
I keep forgetting it was a movie, my memory does not serve me right here.
Innagadadavida wrote:Because not everybody enjoys torture porn with horrible art.
-
DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
The GT Special is not a Movie but a TV Special. As for what is canon and what is not, there is no official canon, so it's canon whatever you you want to be canon on yur personal canon.
And we are not sure if he is dead in the GT Special. The narrator could be only talking about the Z-Senshi, or he was killed by #18 because of his perverted nature.
And we are not sure if he is dead in the GT Special. The narrator could be only talking about the Z-Senshi, or he was killed by #18 because of his perverted nature.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
-
DoomieDoomie911
- OMG CRAZY REGEN
- Posts: 981
- Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 2:12 pm
- Location: United States
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Yeah that would have made a good what-ifDBZGTKOSDH wrote:or he was killed by #18 because of his perverted nature.
She/her (I have a Twitter account now.)Cipher wrote:Dragon Ball is the story of a kind-hearted, excitable child who uses the power of friendship to improve those around him as he grows into a dangerous obsessive who sometimes accidentally saves the world.
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Herms wrote a post that explains what we know, but it still leaves it a little vague. In the end, there's no way of knowing for sure if Roshi can die of old age or not.
If TPP passes in your country it will be illegal for you to watch an imported DVD. Click here to learn more!
-
DBZAOTA482
- Banned
- Posts: 6995
- Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm
- Contact:
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
...or he must have got caught one serious STD.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The GT Special is not a Movie but a TV Special. As for what is canon and what is not, there is no official canon, so it's canon whatever you you want to be canon on yur personal canon.
And we are not sure if he is dead in the GT Special. The narrator could be only talking about the Z-Senshi, or he was killed by #18 because of his perverted nature.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
-
Insertclevername
- I Live Here
- Posts: 3208
- Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:27 pm
- Location: Eastern Zone 439
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
..or he discovered the internet and died of blood loss from an infinite nosebleed.DBZAOTA482 wrote:...or he must have got caught one serious STD.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The GT Special is not a Movie but a TV Special. As for what is canon and what is not, there is no official canon, so it's canon whatever you you want to be canon on yur personal canon.
And we are not sure if he is dead in the GT Special. The narrator could be only talking about the Z-Senshi, or he was killed by #18 because of his perverted nature.
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
-
Piccolo Daimao
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 8749
- Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Well, Saichourou was over 500 at his first appearance in the series, and he eventually died due to old age, birthing too many children, and/or becoming too bloated from drinking too much water. And in the Saiyan arc, the God of Earth, who was 500 (according to Herms' Age guide), tells Mr. Popo that he has a feeling he's going to die in the upcoming year, but he doesn't know whether or not it's that Piccolo would be killed by the Saiyans or that his lifespan would happen to end around that time.
Of course, God doesn't actually know that he's a Namekian yet (therefore doesn't know anything about their lifespan) and it could be nothing more than a hunch (e.g. he feels that he's going to die in the next year, but is guessing - perhaps jumping to conclusions - that the only options would be Piccolo or his own death, and since he's not fighting the Saiyans, it must be old age), but it's certainly a possibility in his mind. Either way, he ends up living for six more years until he merges with Piccolo and lives on him through him. Dragon Ball Online wasn't confirmed to be manga canon, but Piccolo's still alive in it, although a few wrinkles are coming through.
So I don't believe that Kame-sennin's invulnerable to death from old age. He'd probably hit his limit sometime, maybe in the 400s.
Of course, God doesn't actually know that he's a Namekian yet (therefore doesn't know anything about their lifespan) and it could be nothing more than a hunch (e.g. he feels that he's going to die in the next year, but is guessing - perhaps jumping to conclusions - that the only options would be Piccolo or his own death, and since he's not fighting the Saiyans, it must be old age), but it's certainly a possibility in his mind. Either way, he ends up living for six more years until he merges with Piccolo and lives on him through him. Dragon Ball Online wasn't confirmed to be manga canon, but Piccolo's still alive in it, although a few wrinkles are coming through.
So I don't believe that Kame-sennin's invulnerable to death from old age. He'd probably hit his limit sometime, maybe in the 400s.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Considering Saichourou knew of the Super Saiyan, I think he was over 1,000 years old.
-
Gaffer Tape
- Born 'n Bred Here
- Posts: 6128
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:25 pm
- Contact:
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Not seeing the logic there. Vegeta knew of the legen of the Super Saiya-jin, and he certainly wasn't 1,000 years old. I know about Julius Caesar, and I certainly wasn't around at the same time he was.
Do you follow the most comprehensive and entertaining Dragon Ball analysis series on YouTube? If you do, you're smart and awesome and fairly attractive. If not, see what all the fuss is about without even having to leave Kanzenshuu:
MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection Series Discussion Thread! (Updated 2/16/26!)
Current Episode: The Airtight Case for Slice of Life! - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Resurrection 'F' Arc Part 1
MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection Series Discussion Thread! (Updated 2/16/26!)
Current Episode: The Airtight Case for Slice of Life! - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Resurrection 'F' Arc Part 1
-
DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
Couldn't he have heard about it from his elders?Fox666 wrote:Considering Saichourou knew of the Super Saiyan, I think he was over 1,000 years old.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
-
DoomieDoomie911
- OMG CRAZY REGEN
- Posts: 981
- Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 2:12 pm
- Location: United States
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
What is Muten Roshi anyway? He was already 150-200 at the beginning of the series. Is he even human? If he was already that old, and is still alive in DBO, I don't think he will ever die of old age. But then again he still might die EVENTUALLY.
She/her (I have a Twitter account now.)Cipher wrote:Dragon Ball is the story of a kind-hearted, excitable child who uses the power of friendship to improve those around him as he grows into a dangerous obsessive who sometimes accidentally saves the world.
-
Piccolo Daimao
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 8749
- Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
He's definitely Earthling; he just disciplined his body past the level of normal human ability and into superhuman ability. Characters like Gokuu and Kuririn, who've trained under him and since surpassed him, could probably live as long as he will, if not moreso because they're so much more strong and skilled than him.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:What is Muten Roshi anyway? He was already 150-200 at the beginning of the series. Is he even human? If he was already that old, and is still alive in DBO, I don't think he will ever die of old age. But then again he still might die EVENTUALLY.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
-
Jackal puFF
- I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
- Posts: 1684
- Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:24 pm
- Contact:
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
That could mean all of the warriors could live as long then! Saiyans would last even longer!
-
TheDevilsCorpse
- Moderator
- Posts: 11378
- Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
- Contact:
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
I would have accepted that if DBO didn't say that almost all of the main cast is already dead. Maybe it has something to do with his combination of being a master martial arts hermit and master pervert. =P Yin and Yang, all about finding balance. =PPiccolo Daimao wrote:He's definitely Earthling; he just disciplined his body past the level of normal human ability and into superhuman ability. Characters like Gokuu and Kuririn, who've trained under him and since surpassed him, could probably live as long as he will, if not moreso because they're so much more strong and skilled than him.
That would make Baba, Tsuru and Tao closet perverts though...but I can live with that. xD
Re: Can Muten Roshi die of old age?
The simple answer would be that he's a sennin. But everyone else in his family seem to be long lived, too, so there might be more to it than that. And both Tsuru-sennin and Taopaipai also seem to have the same thing going for them.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:What is Muten Roshi anyway? He was already 150-200 at the beginning of the series. Is he even human? If he was already that old, and is still alive in DBO, I don't think he will ever die of old age. But then again he still might die EVENTUALLY.
If TPP passes in your country it will be illegal for you to watch an imported DVD. Click here to learn more!