Saiyans have super memory?

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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:10 am

DoomieDoomie911 wrote:Saiyans get the information from the space pods. They don't have a "super memory" or anything.
We can't be sure for anything.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:26 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DoomieDoomie911 wrote:Saiyans get the information from the space pods. They don't have a "super memory" or anything.
We can't be sure for anything.
Then how do you expect they get it? It has to either be a machine or the space pod.
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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:38 pm

DoomieDoomie911 wrote:Then how do you expect they get it? It has to either be a machine or the space pod.
Like I said, we can't be sure. There is no official confirmation on this subject, so the only think we can do is speculate.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by roidrage » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:08 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Nope. Sorry. Not buying it. I think you're extremely overestimating an infant's cognitive abilities. Yes, the ability to learn is huge for a child, much more so than for adults. But there is no way for an infant to understand a concept as complex as, "Subjugate a planet's inhabitants." You may as well say, "With a child's sponge-like ability to learn, you can keep a baby in a room with tapes teaching Calculus, and he'll be a math wiz in no time." The brain just hasn't developed enough yet, and its absorption capabilities are far too occupied with learning basic human functions like mobility, communication, and how to satisfy needs.
You're applying real life laws to Dragon Ball. That really doesn't work no matter how you slice it. The three theories are far more plausible and the most likely explanations, but if your only logic is "Real babies can't do that", that's pretty weak.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:03 am

I'm thinking you missed the point entirely, especially since my three theories were the ONLY things I posited, and you seem to agree with them. The question is, "Do Saiyan babies have super memories? Mental capacities that exceed that of real babies?" People have said, "No. It's just the spacepod telling them what to do. Their brains are the same as regular babies." And I said, "No, that's silly. Regular babies could not do that, so if that's all you have to go on, then there has to be something special about their brains compared to real life earthling babies." Seriously, did you even read what I posted, or did you just see, "Real babies can't do that," and hit the quote button?
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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by roidrage » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:10 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:I'm thinking you missed the point entirely, especially since my three theories were the ONLY things I posited, and you seem to agree with them. The question is, "Do Saiyan babies have super memories? Mental capacities that exceed that of real babies?" People have said, "No. It's just the spacepod telling them what to do. Their brains are the same as regular babies." And I said, "No, that's silly. Regular babies could not do that, so if that's all you have to go on, then there has to be something special about their brains compared to real life earthling babies." Seriously, did you even read what I posted, or did you just see, "Real babies can't do that," and hit the quote button?
I read that post, but must not have looked closely enough at the posts preceding it. My mistake.
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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by Toadster » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:53 am

How would Saiyan babies even understand what a space pod is telling them? It's not like they're born fully comprehending language, is it? I think they're programmed to know that stuff at such an early age. Speaking of which, how do they even take care of themselves when they reach a planet? Someone's gotta feed it and make its infancy, right? Saiyans might just be extremely quick developers in mental capabilities.

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Post by hleV » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:39 am

Toadster wrote:How would Saiyan babies even understand what a space pod is telling them?
They wouldn't. They just need to grow enough first.

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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by Eight-Star Dragon » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:08 pm

roidrage wrote: You're applying real life laws to Dragon Ball. That really doesn't work no matter how you slice it. The three theories are far more plausible and the most likely explanations, but if your only logic is "Real babies can't do that", that's pretty weak.
I see no reason why Toriyama or even Toei in their extraneous material wouldn't mention something to the effect of "the spacepod tells us [Saiyans] what to do" or "we babies are programmed with instructions", etc. in the story through Raditz or something if that's what he/they had in mind. I say the simplest explanation works fine - the Saiyan babies are simply supposed to (unrealistically) remember to their infancy.

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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:03 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DoomieDoomie911 wrote:Then how do you expect they get it? It has to either be a machine or the space pod.
Like I said, we can't be sure. There is no official confirmation on this subject, so the only think we can do is speculate.
Yeah, I guess your right, there is no official confirmation.
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Post by Jackal puFF » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:32 pm

First thing in my mind. I don't think so, Goku couldn't even remember Chi-Chi at the tourney.

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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:23 am

Jackal puFF wrote:First thing in my mind. I don't think so, Goku couldn't even remember Chi-Chi at the tourney.
Not the best example. She was a little girl he met only one time for one day 7 years ago, and 7 years later she was a grown up woman.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Saiyans have super memory?

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Yeah, nobody realized who she was expect Oolong.

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