Least favorite parts in the series

[Piccolo Daimao]

If not, couldn't they just sense Bobbodi, Dabra, Spopovich and/or Yamu's ki, and then guide Kibito there when he uses Kai Kai?

Anyway, I believe that Kaioushin and/or Kibito mentioned that they'd searched that area before, but Bobbodi's spaceship remained undiscovered because it was hidden underground. So they'd know where the area is.

Not if their ki was being hidden, which I believe must have been the case. Other wise, they'd have found the spaceship long ago by just flying around and sensing for their ki, wouldn't they?

Ah, OK. Well, forget that and just look at my second option: they'd searched the area before and know where it is, but Bobbodi's spaceship was underground.

[Michsi]

I always though that one of the strangest things in the Buu Saga was Babidi not knowing about the warriros. I used to think he came to earth sometime in the 7 years between the Cell and the tournament, but I think it was mentioned that he has been there for thousands of years. He was looking for powerfull people, yet he had no idea about the ones under his nose?

[Saiga]

Ah, OK. Well, forget that and just look at my second option: they'd searched the area before and know where it is, but Bobbodi's spaceship was underground.

Oh, I was unsure about that. Couldn't that have meant that they had searched around the area because they had searched the whole planet looking for the ship, and found nothing? I don't remember the original line or anything like that.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I always though that one of the strangest things in the Buu Saga was Babidi not knowing about the warriros. I used to think he came to earth sometime in the 7 years between the Cell and the tournament, but I think it was mentioned that he has been there for thousands of years. He was looking for powerfull people, yet he had no idea about the ones under his nose?

Didn't Dabra say that he had the Earth checked 300 years ago and there was no-one with nearly as much power as that? I always thought, "Well, yeah, obviously a lot can change in 300 fucking years, you idiot!"

Ah, OK. Well, forget that and just look at my second option: they'd searched the area before and know where it is, but Bobbodi's spaceship was underground.

Oh, I was unsure about that. Couldn't that have meant that they had searched around the area because they had searched the whole planet looking for the ship, and found nothing? I don't remember the original line or anything like that.

No, I think they explicitly stated that they'd searched that precise area, but found nothing, and then they concluded that it was because Bobbodi had hidden his ship underground, judging by how it looked as if it'd been dug up around.

[Michsi]

Didn't Dabra say that he had the Earth checked 300 years ago and there was no-one with nearly as much power as that? I always thought, "Well, yeah, obviously a lot can change in 300 fucking years, you idiot!"

I can't remember that, but even so, how could they have missed Cell vs SSJ Gohan fight??? It was their business to find strong people.

[DBZAOTA482]

Didn't Dabra say that he had the Earth checked 300 years ago and there was no-one with nearly as much power as that? I always thought, "Well, yeah, obviously a lot can change in 300 fucking years, you idiot!"

I can't remember that, but even so, how could they have missed Cell vs SSJ Gohan fight??? It was their business to find strong people.

Majin Buu Saga logic

[Saiga]

Didn't Dabra say that he had the Earth checked 300 years ago and there was no-one with nearly as much power as that? I always thought, "Well, yeah, obviously a lot can change in 300 fucking years, you idiot!"

I can't remember that, but even so, how could they have missed Cell vs SSJ Gohan fight??? It was their business to find strong people.

Majin Buu Saga logic

Because they weren't looking at Earth at the time. They could have been at the other end of the Galaxy at that point looking for people.

[Michsi]

Because they weren't looking at Earth at the time. They could have been at the other end of the Galaxy at that point looking for people.

Freeza, SSJ Goku, Cold, they were the strongest people in the universe at one point, two of them pretty famous and well known amoung the gods . I mean, where were they looking? They were content with trying to gather power from earth level fighters, but didn't try out people like Freeza and his family or the entire saiyan population? Also, I was led to believe they had been on earth the entire time.

[Saiga]

Freeza, SSJ Goku, Cold, they were the strongest people in the universe at one point, two of them pretty famous and well known amoung the gods . I mean, where were they looking? They were content with trying to gather power from earth level fighters, but didn't try out people like Freeza and his family or the entire saiyan population? Also, I was led to believe they had been on earth the entire time.

I was under the impression that they themselves had to locate Majin Boo's ball first.

[DarkPrince_92]

Least favorite part..... Garlic Jr. Saga.

[DBZAOTA482]

His 'plan' to stop Buu was counter-productive, it was to let Spopovich and Yamu steal a retarded amount of energy so they can revive Buu. Without him to fuck around, Buu would have never been resurrected or at least severely delayed from hatching. His 'plan' opens up many plotholes:

A) He or Kibito could have just used Instantaneous Transmission to find Babidi and stop him.

B) Letting Gohan destroying Spopovich and Yamu instead of letting him get his energy absorbed would have made Buu so much weaker.

C) If they let Goku on with the 'plan', he would have tracked Babidi down with Instantaneous Transmission to stop him himself.

D) The Z-Senshi could have sensed Spopovich and Yamu's Battle Power when they were hiding out and just destroy them.

The guy is a supreme god that lived for eions, you'd think for someone of that tier who lived for so long would have thought up a better plan and the funniest thing is that he was made out to be some cool and mysterious fellow only to reveal that he's someone weak and not-so-mysterious).

I think it's just that Kaioushin was explicitly stated to be the youngest of the Kaioushin, therefore probably the most inexperienced. Even Kaiou calls him a "kid". The other three Kaioushin - who must've all been older, wiser and stronger than him - may not have had time to teach him the ropes before they were killed by Boo. We don't call Trunks stupid for not knowing about the speed drawbacks of Super Saiyan Grade III before he actually fought Cell; he too was just young, inexperienced and didn't think things through.

Well the way you point it out diminished my hatred for Kaioshin a bit. Still don't like him though and to be fair, everyone in the Majin Buu Saga was a complete moron.

[Piccolo Daimao]

everyone in the Majin Buu Saga was a complete moron.

Yes. Probably the biggest Idiot Ball moment of that arc is when everyone thought Gohan was dead when they'd revived all the good guys who'd died that day with the DBs moments prior.

[Gaffer Tape]

Yeah, the idiocy piled up into such a car wreck at around that point, what with no one figuring out that Gohan should be alive, Goku pulling SSJ3 out of nowhere, and Goku instructing the kids NOT to use the Room of Spirit and Time to expedite their fusion training when time is of the absolute essence because being in there for a whole week would really put a dent in their two-year time limit.

[DBZAOTA482]

everyone in the Majin Buu Saga was a complete moron.

Yes. Probably the biggest Idiot Ball moment of that arc is when everyone thought Gohan was dead when they'd revived all the good guys who'd died that day with the DBs moments prior.

Even the 'intelligent' characters (Piccolo, Gohan, and Bulma) weren't safe.

[Sebastian]

I was never very fond of how DBZ ended, Goku just abandons his friends and family to train uub for years on end. GT didn't help much with that.

[Aoi]

I don't ever watch the Garlic Jr Saga. I do a run of "Z" every 2-3 years or so, and I just can't stand it. It's great that you can completely ignore it without missing out on anything. In fact, I'd argue that it actually hurts the series as a whole, which is unforgivable .

Dragon Ball- Definitely parts of the Red Ribbon Arc. However, it has the Tao Pai Pai fight, which is absolutely brilliant storytelling.

Dragon Ball Z- Easily Frieza vs. SSJ1 Goku- The entire fight up until the transformation was good (though the one I least enjoy out of all of the other major ones). However, SSJ Goku vs. Frieza is pretty horrible. It's the ONLY part of the entire series that I thank "Kai" for. The rest of the series is wonderful. Nearly episode in itself is excellently paced. The only "unwatchables" are Goku vs. Frieza (post SSJ) and then the Garlic Jr. crap. I see Kai's entire existence being justified by fixing SSJ Goku vs. Frieza

GT - Most of the series. Especially Pan and Goku fighting the first 4 evil Dragons. Just garbage. Super 17 is enjoyable though, as are the fights vs. Bebi.

[dprez]

Garlic Jr. Arc. Hands down my least favorite part of the entire Dragon Ball series. Let it be known that I have yet to see all of GT, and haven't seen most of the early Dragon Ball filler.

If we're talking about canon( that I've seen and remember ), then probably the early Artificial Human arc. I think this is my least favorite part of the entire series. It's epic and intense just like the rest of Z, but everything that happened around this arc is just better IMO, even the Boo saga.