"Mark" is the only English name?

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:00 am

Now, I know Toriyama said this after the Dragon Ball manga had ended, but it was just something I'd been thinking about. Don't you think it's odd that Mr. Satan's real name, "Mark", is the only real-life English given name in the series?

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:09 am

Are the Red Ribbon army members countable as well? There are names based of colors used in real life, right?

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:11 am

I think "Trunks" is an English name. Also "Briefs".

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:22 am

SHINOBI-03 wrote:Are the Red Ribbon army members countable as well? There are names based of colors used in real life, right?

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:I think "Trunks" is an English name. Also "Briefs".

No, I specified "real-life English given names", or at least those that are relatively well-known and in usage. I mean, how many people do you know that are called "Blue" or "Trunks"?

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:29 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
SHINOBI-03 wrote:Are the Red Ribbon army members countable as well? There are names based of colors used in real life, right?

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:I think "Trunks" is an English name. Also "Briefs".
No, I specified "real-life English given names", or at least those that are relatively well-known and in usage. I mean, how many people do you know that are called "Blue" or "Trunks"?

"Red" is a reasonably well-known name, at least.

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:34 am

Adamant wrote:"Red" is a reasonably well-known name, at least.

Well, what I mean is that "Mark" is the only or most "normal"-sounding one of the lot. The only person I can think of whose name is "Red" is that guy in The Shawshank Redemption, and that was a nickname based on his surname.

Gaffer Tape · Post by **Gaffer Tape** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:54 am

Red Buttons? Redd Foxx? Family Guy's Blue Harvest special did a whole series of jokes on this!

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:13 am

Jackie from Jackie Chun? :{

Drabaz · Post by **Drabaz** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:57 am

I think you all are missing the point. The point is that Mark is the most common American sounding name in Dragonball. Therefore, by association with Mr. Satan, America is the devil.

Son_Gohan · Post by **Son_Gohan** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:19 pm

There was Gohan's classmate "Angela", and Piccolo's driving instructor "Cynthia".

But those were filler.

Insertclevername · Post by **Insertclevername** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:33 pm

Was the name "Jimmy Firecracker" a dub name? It was given for the news broadcaster at the Cell Games. Other than that I can't think of anyone else.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:38 pm

Insertclevername wrote:Was the name "Jimmy Firecracker" a dub name?

Yes. It very, very, very much was.

There's also the "Final Flash" and "Big Bang Attack", though they're not character names.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:43 pm

Did Toriyama specifically say that the name was with a letter K or C? Marc or Mark?

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:45 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Did Toriyama specifically say that the name was with a letter K or C? Marc or Mark?

He did not -- it's written out in katakana in the interview transcription (マーク), so that bit of transliteration is up to you.

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:28 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Red Buttons? Redd Foxx? Family Guy's Blue Harvest special did a whole series of jokes on this!

Red Buttons was a friend's nickname he adopted and performed under, and he was born Aaron Chwatt. Redd Foxx was just a stage name too; his real name was John Elroy Sanford.

JulieYBM wrote:Jackie from Jackie Chun? :{

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. So I guess "Mark" would be the only real-life English given name in the manga that isn't based on an actual real-life name.

VegettoEX wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:Did Toriyama specifically say that the name was with a letter K or C? Marc or Mark?
He did not -- it's written out in katakana in the interview transcription (マーク), so that bit of transliteration is up to you.

I'd say it's "Mark", if it's a pun on "akuma" (which is partly where "Akkuman" got his name from), which has a "k" in it.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:42 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Red Buttons? Redd Foxx? Family Guy's Blue Harvest special did a whole series of jokes on this!
Red Buttons was a friend's nickname he adopted and performed under, and he was born Aaron Chwatt. Redd Foxx was just a stage name too; his real name was John Elroy Sanford.

Have this list, then:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(given_name)

Rukura · Post by **Rukura** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:05 pm

Wasn't there someone in the Red Ribbon named "Violet"? (Might've been filler)

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:59 pm

Adamant wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Red Buttons? Redd Foxx? Family Guy's Blue Harvest special did a whole series of jokes on this!
Red Buttons was a friend's nickname he adopted and performed under, and he was born Aaron Chwatt. Redd Foxx was just a stage name too; his real name was John Elroy Sanford.
Have this list, then:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(given_name)

I checked through all of them and they were either stage names/nicknames or some Native American chief title/name, which doesn't count.

And yes, there was someone named Colonel Violet or something, in both the manga and anime.

Pokewhiz7 · Post by **Pokewhiz7** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:17 pm

How about Killa? You could romanize that as Kira, which is a real name. I guess that's not really the intent, though.

Son Satan · Post by **Son Satan** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:39 pm

Rukura wrote:Wasn't there someone in the Red Ribbon named "Violet"? (Might've been filler)

Well, there was Murasaki, and I dunno, maybe that was his name in a dub?

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