Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[AgitoZ]

But seriously, where's new real info about this film?

If there was any you'd see it in the thread.

The new info was gonna be the quote from Toriyama, but since WSJ gets leaked early anyways...

[Hellspawn28]

I wonder if the movie will end up being in 3D or not since everything has been in 3D for the past two years?

[dbboxkaifan]

I wonder if the movie will end up being in 3D or not since everything has been in 3D for the past two years?

Wasn't it out many years ago already but only recently companies started to give a crap about it?

I thought people already forgotten about 3D again and moved on.

Anyway, hopefully they'll spend more time on the film than gimicky things like 3D effect.

[Hellspawn28]

A lot of movies are still getting film in 3D and I believe 3D is pretty popular in Japan if I'm not mistaken. I know that Avatar was popular when it was first released in Japan in 2009 and I think Toei has made a few films shot in 3D recently in the past few years (Like their recent Super Sentai and Kamen Rider movies where shot in 3D IIRC?). Not to mention 3D means more money for the studio.

[SSJToreto]

This is AMAZING news! Hopefully this will be a 2-hour type thing, which will then produce a snowball effect of popularity forcing Toriyama to draw some new manga and/or Toei creating a new DB series or atleast re-animate DB/Z.

I can dream can't I?...

[Piccolo Daimao]

forcing Toriyama to draw some new manga

Judging by the Boo arc, the man just doesn't have it in him anymore.

[Son Satan]

I think Toei has made a few films shot in 3D recently in the past few years (Like their recent Super Sentai and Kamen Rider movies where shot in 3D IIRC?). Not to mention 3D means more money for the studio.

Not to mention NAS's Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D: Bonds Beyond Time last winter.

[Adamant]

I mean, if Fox dubbed it themselves, it'd have the potential to be a U.S. counterpart to the Big Green dub, wouldn't it?
"Come, magic cloud!"

You already have a US counterpart to that dub. It's called "Funimation's dub".

On a pure franchise treatment level, Fox proved with Dragonball Evolution that they didn't really bother paying attention to what Funi had done to the franchise, so there's no reason to assume a Fox dub wouldn't be better than something Funi'd shit out.

[SSJToreto]

forcing Toriyama to draw some new manga

Judging by the Boo arc, the man just doesn't have it in him anymore.

You never know. It's been a while.

[Hellspawn28]

I think Toriyama is done with DB and I doubt he wants to return even after 17 years later. My guess is that Toei will make more DBZ movies if this turns out well. 2014 is the 30th anniversary of the series, so Toei will likely make a big anniversary movie a year later.

[sangofe]

forcing Toriyama to draw some new manga

Judging by the Boo arc, the man just doesn't have it in him anymore.

What? That is your personal opinion, to me the Boo arc was the most entertaining saga.

[Piccolo Daimao]

forcing Toriyama to draw some new manga

Judging by the Boo arc, the man just doesn't have it in him anymore.

What? That is your personal opinion, to me the Boo arc was the most entertaining saga.

"Entertaining" does not equal "good storytelling", and he was arguably at his worst in the Boo arc. Why do you think there are so much more debates/arguments over Boo arc-specific stuff like whether or not Super Boo was stronger than Pure Boo, or if Gohan was SS or SS2 against Dabra?

Even if it's been seventeen years since the deadline-riddled series ended, it'd do more harm than good for him to somehow continue the over-long saga, or even just expand on the DB universe. It's clear that he had a fun, but I doubt he loves it as much as we do, and he's likely forgotten half of it (like, specific thought processes that went into characters, story arcs, transformations - things that you could never get back).

In terms of manga, he seems to have passed over the mantle to Naho Ooishi, who's actually pretty good.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

"Entertaining" does not equal "good storytelling", and he was arguably at his worst in the Boo arc. Why do you think there are so much more debates/arguments over Boo arc-specific stuff like whether or not Super Boo was stronger than Pure Boo, or if Gohan was SS or SS2 against Dabra?

It's the nature of the arc that makes most of the debates (fusions, absorptions, etc.), the only bad thing in Boo arc's writing I would say would be Gohan not being SS2 against Dabra & Boo.

[Piccolo Daimao]

"Entertaining" does not equal "good storytelling", and he was arguably at his worst in the Boo arc. Why do you think there are so much more debates/arguments over Boo arc-specific stuff like whether or not Super Boo was stronger than Pure Boo, or if Gohan was SS or SS2 against Dabra?

It's the nature of the arc that makes most of the debates (fusions, absorptions, etc.), the only bad thing in Boo arc's writing I would say would be Gohan not being SS2 against Dabra & Boo.

And that entire segment in Bobbodi's spaceship. And no-one realizing that Gohan would be alive with the wish they made moments ago. And the plothole of Gokuu not hinting at using SS3 to defeat Boo until after Mr. Popo brings up Goten and Trunks using Fusion instead of him and Gohan or Vegeta, and then writing it off as "Oh, I just wanted to the boys to do it themselves, even though they weren't even a part of our plan an hour ago and I totally lied about not being able to do anything beforehand". Everything to do with Gohan's borderline offensive treatment. Just how ridiculously haxxed and repetitive Boo's regeneration gets.

So yeah, more than just one bad thing.

[sangofe]

"Entertaining" does not equal "good storytelling", and he was arguably at his worst in the Boo arc. Why do you think there are so much more debates/arguments over Boo arc-specific stuff like whether or not Super Boo was stronger than Pure Boo, or if Gohan was SS or SS2 against Dabra?

Even if it's been seventeen years since the deadline-riddled series ended, it'd do more harm than good for him to somehow continue the over-long saga, or even just expand on the DB universe. It's clear that he had a fun, but I doubt he loves it as much as we do, and he's likely forgotten half of it (like, specific thought processes that went into characters, story arcs, transformations - things that you could never get back).

In terms of manga, he seems to have passed over the mantle to Naho Ooishi, who's actually pretty good.

Well, the Boo saga is about crazy things happening... With lots of fighting and humor. The start of DB is an adventure that progresses. What is better or worse I don't think you can decide, just prefer personally. Personally, I don't really need a "good storytelling": I'd love more of the craziness that was going on in the Boo saga.

[Chuquita]

If the movie's site's news feed continues to correlate to Shounen Jump's official weekly release date, I guess it's really Jump we should be looking to for breaking news on the movie considering how ahead of time the magazine gets sold and its contents posted online. While it seems kind of unfair that early leaks with the magazine happen, it seems inevitable and I do look forward to seeing if next week's Jump has more info.

Partly off topic; I'm happy my two edited poster arts were liked, I enjoyed working on them.

[dbboxkaifan]

Judging by the Boo arc, the man just doesn't have it in him anymore.

I found Majin Buu's arc very funny as as if he went back to Dr. Slump and Arale-chan times with comedic moments, parodies and whatnot.

The animation on some episodes looked a bit weird but didn't ruin it for me.

[Piccolo Daimao]

"Entertaining" does not equal "good storytelling", and he was arguably at his worst in the Boo arc. Why do you think there are so much more debates/arguments over Boo arc-specific stuff like whether or not Super Boo was stronger than Pure Boo, or if Gohan was SS or SS2 against Dabra?

Even if it's been seventeen years since the deadline-riddled series ended, it'd do more harm than good for him to somehow continue the over-long saga, or even just expand on the DB universe. It's clear that he had a fun, but I doubt he loves it as much as we do, and he's likely forgotten half of it (like, specific thought processes that went into characters, story arcs, transformations - things that you could never get back).

In terms of manga, he seems to have passed over the mantle to Naho Ooishi, who's actually pretty good.

Well, the Boo saga is about crazy things happening... With lots of fighting and humor. The start of DB is an adventure that progresses. What is better or worse I don't think you can decide, just prefer personally. Personally, I don't really need a "good storytelling": I'd love more of the craziness that was going on in the Boo saga.

I know, but there's got to be a limit. It's not purely a gag manga anymore, and I'd like to enjoy a story with fighting and humour without having to scratch my head every five minutes (OK, that might be a bit of an exaggeration, but you know what I mean).

It's almost as if Toriyama suddenly decided that he was going to make the Boo arc a self-parody (if anything; more likely, he was just having fun without the restraints of his editor), but whatever he was going for, the blend of "serious" and "silly" didn't entirely work.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

And that entire segment in Bobbodi's spaceship.

Why?

And no-one realizing that Gohan would be alive with the wish they made moments ago.

What would you think? Maybe Gohan (supposedly) died after the wish? Not that impossible.

And the plothole of Gokuu not hinting at using SS3 to defeat Boo until after Mr. Popo brings up Goten and Trunks using Fusion instead of him and Gohan or Vegeta, and then writing it off as "Oh, I just wanted to the boys to do it themselves, even though they weren't even a part of our plan an hour ago and I totally lied about not being able to do anything beforehand".

I wouldn't call that a plot-hole. Maybe Goku was trying to think a solution for the ones that were still alive to defeat Boo. He believed that it wasn't his job to interfere in the problems of the Living World, since he was dead and he didn't belong there.

Everything to do with Gohan's borderline offensive treatment.

Can you explain this a little better? Sorry, but my English don't help me here it seems.

Just how ridiculously haxxed and repetitive Boo's regeneration gets.

That's a villain's ability that you don't like, not bad writing. That's what Boo is.

but whatever he was going for, the blend of "serious" and "silly" didn't entirely work.

That's purely an opinion. Maybe it didn't work fine for you & others, but it worked fine for me & others.

[Herms]

Let's have a separate thread for discussing the relative merits of the Boo story arc, and keep this thread for discussing that newfangled movie thingamabob coming out.