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by Kaboom » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:26 pm
mysticboy wrote:SSJ3 Broly vs. Kid Buu
Broly would still end up in the same general tier as Goku in the form. But even if he potentially has the power to defeat Pure Boo, he's too dumb to know how to use it. Boo will keep coming back and relentlessly counter-attacking Broly, Broly will run out of stamina and lose SSj3 even more quickly than Goku because he does jack diddly to conserve his ki, and then Broly will be easily mauled by Boo even worse than SSj2 Vegeta was.
All in all, "BROLY SMASH" is pretty much the worst possible strategy against any form of Majin Boo. You're never going to clothesline a Boo to death.
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by FNF » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:53 pm
If Broly had the replenishing Ki like he did in LSSjin, then he'd steamroll him imo. Of course, he's Broly so he'd get absorbed anyway.
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by Saiga » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:11 pm
SS3 Gotenks would defeat SS3 Goku easily, unless he spends the whole 5 minutes not attacking (at all).
Vegeta would destroy Chi-Chi, and Boo would defeat Broli without much difficulty.
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by In Brightest Day » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:59 pm
Mr. Satan vs. Panpoot.
Panpoot makes his long awaited return to the Budokai and challenges Mark for his World championship. Who takes it?
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by Saiga » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:00 am
Satan stomps him.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:32 am
mysticboy wrote:SSJ3 Broly vs. Kid Buu
I have LSS Broli a little above SS2 Goku, so (L)SS3 Broli would be stronger than SS3 Goku, since Broli took a x8 power boos, while Goku would take a x4 boost. Since SS3 Goku is at about the same level as Pure Boo, Broli wins.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by FNF » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:33 am
We already went over this.
Panputto>Budokai wall>Punching bag>Videl>MISTER SATAN SAMA
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by Saiga » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:42 am
Satan > Slamming into the side of a mountain.
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by FNF » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:45 am
Saiga wrote:Satan > Slamming into the side of a mountain.
Gag.
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by Kaboom » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:47 am
Putting Videl and her punching bag in the mix isn't really necessary. Panput shattering a brick wall with an elbow already seems above what Mister Satan could do. Panput would most likely win, but no doubt the champ would put up a fight.
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by Saiga » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:49 am
FNF wrote:Saiga wrote:Satan > Slamming into the side of a mountain.
Gag.
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by mysticboy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:57 pm
SSJ3 Adult Gotenks vs. Omega Shenron.
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by dprez » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:31 am
I'm pretty sure Gotenks gets destroyed easily.
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by Rocketman » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:00 am
GT rules: Gotenks gets violated for daring to attempt to upstage Lord Godku.
Z rules: Gotenks squanders his time with showboating.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:48 am
mysticboy wrote:SSJ3 Adult Gotenks vs. Omega Shenron.
Goku believed that Gotenks wouldn't be enough for Oozaru Baby, so he definitely won't be enough for Super Yi Xing Long, who is a lot stronger than Baby.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by mysticboy » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:22 am
Ignore GT logic. Remember, Trunks and Goten were comparable to final form Freeza as children. SSJ3 Gotenks was equal with Super Buu, as a kid. Vegeta and Goku undoubtedly made them train during the time between Kid Buu and Uub, so who knows how strong they've gotten.
Basically, use Z logic.
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by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:19 am
Not really. They were more like normal teenagers than Saiyans by the end of the series so they've gotten rusty.
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fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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by Fox666 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:39 am
mysticboy wrote:Remember, Trunks and Goten were comparable to final form Freeza as children.
Is that based on the Jump Special? Because I don't think it was so clear about it.
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by Saiga » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:04 am
If they as Super Saiyans are able to fight (at least) on par with #18, it stands to reason that Freeza isn't worth shit to them.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:07 am
mysticboy wrote:Ignore GT logic...
...Basically, use Z logic.
But using Z logic would possibly make them even weaker.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
