Pretty much that, yeah, is how I look at it. Does it make much sense? No. But is it pretty much the only applicable option? Yup.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:I think I'll just go with the theory that Freeza's blast opened some kind of "black-hole" in space, resulting in time-travel.
To be honest, I wasn't being that serious, buuut being flung through time because some kind of explosion ripped a hole in space time is actually a pretty common thing in science fiction. And not without reason: space-time really is warped by mass-energy, which is why time passes differently the farther you get from a massive object, such as a black hole. Focus enough energy into one spot and who knows what's possible? It happens on Star Trek all the time!hleV wrote:So basically people, being aware that Bardock received future-seeing abilities (possibly not only that), give all the credit to the explosion Freeza made, and not Bardock's new abilities which focus exactly on time-related thing?
Don't wanna sound rude, but to me it seems ridiculous. Bardock's new abilities have to do at least something with this...
(Can't... resist...)Bussani wrote:But honestly, I just want to apply Sealab 2021 logic to Dragon Ball.
Also, the whole precognition plot point had pretty much been wrapped up when Bardock knew that Gokuu would eventually destroy Freeza. For better or for worse, it just didn't have any plot-relevant importance anymore.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If said abilities were even so much as referenced in EoB, I might agree with you. But, Bardock doesn't have a vision, mention he had visions, wonder why he's not having visions, etc. They could have planted a minor reference to them by having him wonder where he was at and thinking that maybe if he had another vision, it might clear things up for him. Instead, it almost seems like they were retconned out of existence.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
I believe Tooro did say that he was giving Bardock the powers as a gift so that he could see his race's impending doom. I suppose it's possible that the powers were more of a borrowed for that sole reason thing, rather than a gift to be used for the rest of his life...assuming it was a universe where he was "eradicated" at 88 mph, of course.Piccolo Daimao wrote:Also, the whole precognition plot point had pretty much been wrapped up when Bardock knew that Gokuu would eventually destroy Freeza. For better or for worse, it just didn't have any plot-relevant importance anymore.
Well, we only had two changes, right? Dodoria knocking out Bardock happened differently off-screen without destroying his armor, and his final confrontation with Freeza.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The manga special didn't really feel like a continuation of the original TV Special, thanks to all the changes.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Dodoria attacking Bardock differently (Manga only), altered design for at least Selypa (Manga only), Dodoria and Zarbon being outside the ship, Bardock and Freeza's actual encounter being altered, lack of his final vision...heck I don't even think they kept his final words in tact. I mean, they didn't have to actually show the final vision since this wasn't supposed to be about Goku, but a hint that Bardock was still experiencing it would have been nice.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Well, we only had two changes, right? Dodoria knocking out Bardock happened differently off-screen without destroying his armor, and his final confrontation with Freeza.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Same with Freeza and Namek, really.CaptainKatsura wrote:Muffin Button triggered by the explosion. That was on his scouter, or nearby character's.
His survival doesn't make sense. Pure Boo would get teleported to different time if Episode of Bardock was canon, since they died in kinda similar manner.
Also, I'd like to add that, Freeza & Boo were on the planet, while Bardock was just very near.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Sooo many factors to consider; different planets, different elements, different gravity, different attack, different ki, different power, different explosion, etc. Just because a planet blows up, it doesn't mean you're going to get the same resulting reactions. Bardock just got "lucky" with the rift, if you want to call it that anyway. I mean, he lived, but at a bit of a cost...
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
