Is Kuririn the most underrated Dragon Ball character?

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Is Kuririn the most underrated Dragon Ball character?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:11 pm

To me, Kuririn is the most underrated Dragon Ball character. I know there isn't that much legitimate Kuririn-bashing so to speak (at least compared to lesser characters like Yamcha, or Chi-Chi) but he still gets a large amount of undeserved disrespect from the fanbase, and people under mind his importance in the series. Recently, I was watching this video called "Android 18 is confused" in where Kuririn gets killed in front of his wife 18 and his daughter Marron by a possessed 17 (it was a surpisingly sad moment from GT, especially considering he might not be brought back), and over 90% of the comments were people making jokes about how weak and worthless Kuririn was or how he has the highest death count out of all the characters in Dragon Ball. It made me feel kinda bad for the poor little guy since he's one of my favorites.

Do you agree that Kuririn is the most underrated character but if not, tell me who you think is the most underrated character?
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Re: Is Kuririn the most underrated Dragon Ball character?

Post by Insertclevername » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:49 pm

I completely agree, Kuririn is one of the most relate able and most human of the whole cast, so it confuses me why he garners so much criticism. I guess the only way you get respect is if your a socially inept and undereducated dolt who would rather workout than spend time with his family....
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Post by OutlawTorn » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:58 pm

Insertclevername wrote:I completely agree, Kuririn is one of the most relate able and most human of the whole cast, so it confuses me why he garners so much criticism.
Perhaps the critics only see a DB character's worth in terms of strength. But, I think because Kuririn is relate-able it is precisely why he is a magnet for all of the horrible stuff which happens to him, as they would have more of an effect on characters you really care about. It's kind of like Neville Longbottom in Harry Potter.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:08 pm

I like to think of Kuririn as DB's Ussop.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:16 pm

I think its also falls on fault of Toei (and maybe even Toriyama a little bit in the manga)for making Krillin seem like a bubbling coward for comedic purposes in some of the filler and ALL of the movies. Granted I do think some of it is funny but I do also realize its sort of a degradation of his overall character.
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Re: Is Kuririn the most underrated Dragon Ball character?

Post by [SP] » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:54 am

Krillin is a very underrated character, as he is the cause for progression of the plot (for better or worse). He survives during the Saiyan invasion, helps fight Freeza with Piccolo and Gohan and many other moments that would not have made the sagas the same.

I think Krillin is not the most underrated character though.
In my opinion, Tien is the most underrated character. We know that he has strength, but it is never elaborated on as the series progresses. It is not like he gets a bad reputation compared to Krillin during Z, but he is almost ignored outright. We just see some super-human strength, before Tien is cast aside to see some amazing strength that Goku has gained off-screen to defeat the new enemy bent on destroying the Earth.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:22 am

Most of Kuririn’s criticism seems to come from those who’ve only seen the Z portion of the series over him chickening out in the battle with the Androids and subsequently sparing #18 over a kiss, and him being Toei’s comedic butt-monkey in the filler and most of the movies. It's worse still when the dub gives him stupid lines like "Krillin's in da house!" and "Why didn't I become a car salesman?"
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:25 am

To be fair, "Krillin's in da house" is a stupid line about him, not spoken by him (in this particular case, it was the narrator).
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:31 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:To be fair, "Krillin's in da house" is a stupid line about him, not spoken by him (in this particular case, it was the narrator).
Oh, really? I haven't watched the dub in its entirety, to be honest. Well, "mondo cool" was pretty stupid as well, and I think they might've known how stupid (or funny, either way works) it was when they had Vegeta say, "That's right, boys. Mondo cool."
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Post by Son Satan » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:07 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:To be fair, "Krillin's in da house" is a stupid line about him, not spoken by him (in this particular case, it was the narrator).
Oh, really? I haven't watched the dub in its entirety, to be honest.
You would't have seen it either way. It was from one of the Toonami NEPs that FUNi made.


I think Kuririn is just the victim of being Toei's go-to guy for jokes and gags. Toriyama occasionally showed a bit of cowardice in Kuririn, but it was more reluctant heroism than flat-out bumbling scaredy-cat.
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Re: Is Kuririn the most underrated Dragon Ball character?

Post by Cipher » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:09 pm

Almost every emotionally resonant moment in the series involves Kuririn.

Kuririn is awesome.

Also, he grows a mustache with no nose. What a baller.

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Post by Naughty Kinto Un » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:13 am

Wasn't Kuririn voted a "favorite character" (or something) in Shonen Jump (or something) a few years ago (or something)? Wait, wasn't he the top pick (or something) for a spin off manga series (or some--no, actually, that might have been it) in a wishful-thinking readers poll? Or was this a dream I had?

For what it's worth, Kuririn's my personal favorite. I still don't know who's my impersonal favorite.

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Post by Jord » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:06 am

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:To be fair, "Krillin's in da house" is a stupid line about him, not spoken by him (in this particular case, it was the narrator).
Oh, really? I haven't watched the dub in its entirety, to be honest.
You would't have seen it either way. It was from one of the Toonami NEPs that FUNi made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmhbMDFSveQ

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Post by Jackal puFF » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:17 pm

I like to think everybody likes him even though they bag on him sometimes. But yeah, he's definitely underrated. Still ton's of people out there thinking he's weaker than Yamcha..

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Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:14 am

Has there ever been an explanation as to why Kuririn is the only human in the Dragon Ball universe (that I know of) without a nose?

I've always been curious about this. :D

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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:38 am

Toriyama gave an (not so serious) answer in the adventure special. It was something about Krillin having a strange condition that caused him to breath air through his skin.

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Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:43 pm

Hmmm...ok. But why wasn't it ever brought up in the series? Or did I miss it?

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Post by Jackal puFF » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:50 am

Saiyajin no Tatsujin wrote:Hmmm...ok. But why wasn't it ever brought up in the series? Or did I miss it?
Goku did once, during his fight with Bacterian. I guess it would deem normal in their world, with all the animal people and Tien walking around.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:55 am

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Saiyajin no Tatsujin wrote:Hmmm...ok. But why wasn't it ever brought up in the series? Or did I miss it?
Goku did once, during his fight with Bacterian. I guess it would deem normal in their world, with all the animal people and Tenshinhan walking around.
I find it funny that, despite all those weirdos walking around, people were still shocked by Gokuu's tail, and Videl and a monk asked Piccolo at the 25th TB if he was sick based on his green skin.
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Post by Ness » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:42 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:To me, Kuririn is the most underrated Dragon Ball character. I know there isn't that much legitimate Kuririn-bashing so to speak (at least compared to lesser characters like Yamcha, or Chi-Chi) but he still gets a large amount of undeserved disrespect from the fanbase, and people under mind his importance in the series. Recently, I was watching this video called "Android 18 is confused" in where Kuririn gets killed in front of his wife 18 and his daughter Marron by a possessed 17 (it was a surpisingly sad moment from GT, especially considering he might not be brought back), and over 90% of the comments were people making jokes about how weak and worthless Kuririn was or how he has the highest death count out of all the characters in Dragon Ball. It made me feel kinda bad for the poor little guy since he's one of my favorites.

Do you agree that Kuririn is the most underrated character but if not, tell me who you think is the most underrated character?
You have to keep in mind that 90% of Dragon Ball "fans" out there really aren't worth talking to. They're too obsessed with power levels that don't exist.
[SP] wrote: In my opinion, Tenshinhan is the most underrated character. We know that he has strength, but it is never elaborated on as the series progresses. It is not like he gets a bad reputation compared to Krillin during Z, but he is almost ignored outright. We just see some super-human strength, before Tenshinhan is cast aside to see some amazing strength that Goku has gained off-screen to defeat the new enemy bent on destroying the Earth.
That's an interesting point. He used to be the strongest human in the series for a while until "apparently" Kuririn surpasses him on Namek with the boost of power from the Great Elder. And we really don't know the status of his true power following the events after he was killed by Nappa. I think in the manga there is a comment later towards the end of the series where Yamcha mentions to Kuririn's daughter that he's the strongest human on the planet though. I always took that with a grain of salt though even though Toriyama wrote it. Tenshinhan did receive some training under Kaio Sama and was always serious about improving. Not sure if we could say the same for Kuririn.
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