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by samuraix123 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:36 pm
Hello!
I'm curious why was the american flag shown in the original dragonball? I've never seen the original but I thought that countries didn't really exist in the dragonball universe?
was there a point to the guy holding up an american flag hiding from Goku?
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by Metalwario64 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:40 pm
It was a gag. Murasaki was supposed to be using a disguise to blend himself with the tree, but accidentally used the wrong side, which was oddly, an American flag. It's intended to be humorous due to the absurdity of having a tree disguise with a flip-side American flag.
Also, you should really watch the original Dragon Ball.
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by Toadster » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:43 pm
That's so crazy! I actually watched that episode last night and wondered the same thing. What are the odds someone would have made a topic about it?
The whole Ninja Murasaki battle is purely gag. Murasaki was trying to camoflauge but held it the wrong way. I assume it was originally the Japanese flag, but Funimation changed it to the American flag. Because we just can't have kids being exposed to other country's flags.
Either way, it's a gag and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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by Gaffer Tape » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:50 pm
No. It's the same flag. FUNimation wasn't at 4Kids's level of jingoistically unhinged.
As for the flag, you can use three possibilities:
1. Gag logic
2. Toriyama hadn't fully developed the world yet
3. It's a flag that also exists for some purpose in the Dragon Ball world that just happens to bear some similarities to the American flag.
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by samuraix123 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:05 pm
Metalwario64 wrote:It was a gag. Murasaki was supposed to be using a disguise to blend himself with the tree, but accidentally used the wrong side, which was oddly, an American flag. It's intended to be humorous due to the absurdity of having a tree disguise with a flip-side American flag.
Also, you should really watch the original Dragon Ball.
Haha I've got plans on it! as soon as those dragonboxes come out
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by matt0044 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:27 pm
Gaffer Tape wrote:
3. It's a flag that also exists for some purpose in the Dragon Ball world that just happens to bear some similarities to the American flag.
That's my head canon.
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by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:44 pm
Just a simple joke. That's how I view it and I forgot about this until today
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by Herms » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:50 pm
The real answer is probably that Toriyama hadn't yet thought up DB Earth being a single unified country. Still, Daizenshuu 7 says the 43 sectors of DB Earth used to be 43 countries that united into a single worldwide nation, so you could say that one of those countries was a quasi-USA and that Murasaki's flag is a holdover from that period.
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by Dorexx » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:53 pm
There are many instances where America and other real-life places are mentioned. Even the Earth is shown to have the real-life continents some times.
Was it ever explicitly said that
this map represents the entire Earth? It could be just a portion of it.
Maybe the story takes place in some future version of the Earth or something.
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by Herms » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:31 pm
Dorexx wrote:There are many instances where America and other real-life places are mentioned. Even the Earth is shown to have the real-life continents some times.
I think Murasaki's flag is just about the only such instance in the original manga. The anime adds a few, and Viz and Funi add some more. The continents we see from space in the manga don't really match up with real ones (though for that matter they don't look too much like those in the official DB Earth map either).
Was it ever explicitly said that
this map represents the entire Earth?
Yeah, Daizenshuu 4 presents it as such.
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by Rocketman » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:33 pm
Gaffer Tape wrote:3. It's a flag that also exists for some purpose in the Dragon Ball world that just happens to bear some similarities to the American flag.
Since it only has 18 stars and 9 stripes, it's not the US flag anyway.
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by Gaffer Tape » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:00 am
That's exactly why I said that it "bears some similarities" to it rather than saying it was the American flag.
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by Rocketman » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:16 am
Wasn't correcting, just adding a tidbit.
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by Gaffer Tape » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:21 am
I didn't think you were. It is funny, though, because I was specifically thinking of you when I first wrote that.
