How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin realm?

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How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin realm?

Post by Aoi » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:14 pm

This has always bugged me. They showed the Kaioshin's being deployed to fight Kid Buu + Bibidi thousands of years ago on some random planets. However, suddenly we get a flash back with Kid Buu fighting Dai Kaioshin and the East Kaioshin in the holy realm. My question is: How did Buu do that? They imply that Kid Buu finally got to do Instantaneous Movement only at the end of Dragon Ball Z.

2. 2nd random question: Is it ever addressed how long ago it was that the original Kid Buu + Bibidi fought all of the Kai's. All the Old Kaioshin mentions is that : "It happened when humans first began to walk on two legs". Thanks everyone.

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Re: How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin re

Post by Kaboom » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:20 pm

Magic? If Bibbidi is such an amazingly potent wizard, then he may have ways of gaining access to realms that most people shouldn't have access to. Perhaps Bobbidi got himself into the Demon Realm to acquire Dabra the same way.

Though come to think of it, do we know for sure that Bibbidi and Boo actually went TO the Kaioshin Realm? Or did the five Kaioshin come to the mortal universe on their own because those two were such a big threat? I don't think the manga says anything in that regard; only that they fought. From what you say, any of that battle that took place in the Kaioshin Realm might have been an anime-only embellishment.

A tiny theory that just popped into my head... maybe Pure Boo did witness one of the Kaioshin use the Kai-Kai teleportaion all those eons ago, and he used it at the time... but millions of years and multiple absorptions later, he'd "forgotten" it, and was only "reminded" again when he saw Kaioshin use it to save Goku and company. It's possible that Boo's mimicry of of techniques is a relatively short-term thing.
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Post by hleV » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:43 pm

It appears that it's only a matter of teleportation. As long as you're able to teleport, be it with a ki technique or magic, you can reach the Kaioshin Realm.

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Re: How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin re

Post by Herms » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:56 pm

The Daizenshuu 7 timeline places Boo's origin and his fight with the Kaioshins as 5 million years before the start of the series.

I'm pretty sure it's only the anime that portrays Boo fighting them in the Kaioshin Realm. In the manga they're just somewhere nondescript.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:56 pm

Couldn't Babidi teleport wherever he wanted with his spaceship? Maybe Bibidi had a similar spaceship.
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Re: How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin re

Post by Aoi » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:02 pm

Yeah I get what many of you mean. The Buu Saga was meant to be a throwback to the original Dragon Ball where you really weren't supposed to over think certain things. With characters like Buu and Babidi existing, it isn't really that farfetched to think that maybe he did know how to teleport somehow.

One thing that always did bug me is that whole "5 million years" idea. It seemed to me that they were hinting a few hundred thousand at most. The idea that Babidi's father lived 5 million years ago is pretty out there, even in a world like Dragon Ball's.

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Re: How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin re

Post by Bussani » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:17 pm

Kaioshin explained that Buu's original rampage happened when humanity was first beginning to walk upright. A few hundred thousand years is probably too small to fit that comment. Actually, the date in the timeline may well be based on how long ago scientists think human bipedalism first appeared!

Of course, there isn't much apart from this one comment that gives the impression it was that long ago.
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Re: How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin re

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:26 am

Aoi wrote:The idea that Babidi's father lived 5 million years ago is pretty out there, even in a world like Dragon Ball's.
No, it doesn't. Bibbidi's meant to be a demonic warlock whose magic gave birth to Majin Boo. And when we've got people like Kami and Karin reaching 500 and still going strong, complaining about Bibbidi living to 5 million years is "tomato, tomata".
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Re: How did Buu and Bibidi originally get to the Kaioshin re

Post by Rawring Ninja » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:15 pm

Perhaps the Kaioshins brought Buu to their realm so as to not harm the mortal population... Or something.
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