The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:28 pm

Ledgic could beat Mr. Buu, possibly Fat Buu or Evil Buu. I think Super Buu or maybe Kid Buu be strong enough to beat him. I don't think GT Goku is around SSj3 level in his base form.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:53 pm

I believe that Redjic should be able to beat up until Pure Boo, but not Evil Boo & beyond.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:42 pm

More battles:

Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku vs Kaioshin of the South

Ultimate Son Gohan vs Majin Boo (Kaioshin of the South absorbed)
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:48 pm

Goku and Gohan win, although not that easily.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:52 pm

I agree regarding the first matchup if we're to just assume that Boo absorbed South Kaioshin because he was giving him trouble in battle. If it were some other reason, then that might not be the case.

Agree regardless for the second matchup. Gohan would have a much more difficult battle, perhaps even a practically even one like Gotenks previously had with Boo. But unlike Gotenks, Gohan's energy isn't getting flushed away by the second, so he's going to have a much better chance of winning.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:57 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku vs Kaioshin of the South
From what we know, Boo usually absorbs his enemies when they're stronger than him. For example, Boo absorbed Gotenks when he realized that he couldn't beat Gohan, and later absorbed Gohan when the absorbed Gotenks' fusion time ran out and he went back to being weaker than Gohan.

Even though Pure Boo's batshit insane, I don't want to make wild, unsupported assumptions (like the south Kaioushin having some mystical power-separate ability like the old east Kaioushin that was trouble for Boo - somewhat unlikely, since the only attribute we were told of Southy was that he was the strongest Kaioushin. And Fat Boo proved to have superior psychic powers to the east Kaioushin when he floored him, and, well, he's Boo), so I'll say that the south Kaioushin was quite a bit stronger than Pure Boo. Whether Gokuu's alive or dead, I believe that the south Kaioushin would win, because if the east Kaioushin's psychic powers were strong enough to paralyze SS2 Gohan despite being much weaker than him, then ol' Southy - who's both much stronger, older, and presumably wiser - would be able to paralyze someone somewhat weaker than him even easier.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Ultimate Son Gohan vs Majin Boo (Kaioshin of the South absorbed)
I think we've had this match-up before, but whatever. Gohan wins due to his superior intelligence and skill, but it's a close fight.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:32 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Gohan wins due to his superior skill
Things I never expected to read today.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:44 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Gohan wins due to his superior skill
Things I never expected to read today.
Compared to Majin Boo, I mean. Come on, Rocketman, grow up.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:42 pm

...And Rocketman's massive vendetta against Gohan continues.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Mystic Gohan » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:32 pm

How can you hate Gohan? He's the best haha.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:33 pm

Mystic Gohan wrote:How can you hate Gohan? He's the best haha.
One of the reasons Rocketman hates him is because because of the way he became the strongest one.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:47 pm

I think Goku beats SK, honestly. I don't even think he'd beat Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. He could've absorbed him because he was giving him trouble, or it could've been for another reason entirely. Maybe SK had good resistance and kept on fighting unlike the other Kaioshin's. No way of telling.

Gohan wins. Boo would put up a "better" fight, but I don't think he'd be much of an issue in this form.
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Post by Mystic Gohan » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:35 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Mystic Gohan wrote:How can you hate Gohan? He's the best haha.
One of the reasons Rocketman hates him is because because of the way he became the strongest one.
Which character didn't become stronger through some stupid crap?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:41 pm

Kibitoshin vs. LSSJ Movie 8 Broli. Who wins this one?
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:31 pm

Kibitoshin wins rather easily here.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:01 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Compared to Majin Boo, I mean.
I'm gonna need some proof of this.

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Post by mysticboy » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:13 pm

Super 13 (with parts absorbed from 17 and 18 instead of 14 and 15) vs. Perfect Cell

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:35 pm

mysticboy wrote:Super 13 (with parts absorbed from 17 and 18 instead of 14 and 15) vs. Perfect Cell
It can go either way but 60% says Super 13 would win.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Mystic Gohan » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:00 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Compared to Majin Boo, I mean.
I'm gonna need some proof of this.
Gotenks-Buu called Gohan a small fry and Gohan still put up a much better fight against Gotenks-Buu then Super Buu did against Gohan.

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:38 am

Hmm...I could actually see Super #13 rivaling Cell's power with those Androids absorbed. I also think the fight could go either way, but I'll probably give the fight to Cell, anyway, since he has the cells of 4 powerful warriors. Other than that, I see their powers being about the same.
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