Vegito on Namek

[SSJ3_Gogeta]

As Goku busts out of the healing chamber, he heads to the battlefield and meets Freeza. BUT! Rather than take him on directly, he convinces Vegeta to fuse with him with the Potara earrings, forming Vegito years before his actual appearance in the Buu Saga. How will the story progress from here?

Things to keep in mind:
1. This Vegito will be much weaker than his mainstream counterpart (at least initially) due to Goku and Vegeta being weaker and not having acquired Super Saiyan.
2. Everything up to the point of fusion happens the same way as before.

[Kaboom]

Vegeta: ~2.5 million
Goku: ~ 3 million

Vegetto = Goku X Vegeta

Vegetto: ~7.5 trillion

Everything, ever, is still inferior to Vegetto.

[dario03]

Well either he beats everybody easily and the story becomes really boring. Or he goes insane from inner turmoil caused by the even more drastic differences in personalities and moral compass that Goku and Vegeta had at the time. He'd still beat everybody but he would be talking to himself like a crazy person the whole time.

Oh and no need to worry about any Heart Virus because Vegetto.

[Toadster]

Vegeta: ~2.5 million
Goku: ~ 3 million

Vegetto = Goku X Vegeta

Vegetto: ~7.5 trillion

Everything, ever, is still inferior to Vegetto.

I don't think fusions work exactly like that... if they did, Kibitoshin wouldn't have been so pathetically useless. I think other factors come into play, such as common height/race/and potential power all being major drivers in the fusion's power. That being said, Vegeta and Goku fusion has proven that it provides a major boost, so yes, Vegetto still owns everything.

[Bussani]

I don't think fusions work exactly like that... if they did, Kibitoshin wouldn't have been so pathetically useless. I think other factors come into play, such as common height/race/and potential power all being major drivers in the fusion's power.

I also believe this sort of thing, but that doesn't mean Vegetto's fusion doesn't work exactly like that.

[Saiga]

Freeza kills Vegetto, blows up Namek, everyone dies.

[hleV]

Vegeta: ~2.5 million
Goku: ~ 3 million

Vegetto = Goku X Vegeta

Vegetto: ~7.5 trillion

Everything, ever, is still inferior to Vegetto.

I don't think fusions work exactly like that... if they did, Kibitoshin wouldn't have been so pathetically useless.

Kaioshin and Kibito weren't rivals.

[DBZAOTA482]

Vegetto takes a piss on Freeza and Freeza dies.

[Fox666]

And there is the risk of Freeza getting stronger for ingesting Vegetto's essence.

[Xyex]

Vegeta: ~2.5 million
Goku: ~ 3 million

Vegetto = Goku X Vegeta

Vegetto: ~7.5 trillion

Everything, ever, is still inferior to Vegetto.

I don't think fusions work exactly like that... if they did, Kibitoshin wouldn't have been so pathetically useless. I think other factors come into play, such as common height/race/and potential power all being major drivers in the fusion's power. That being said, Vegeta and Goku fusion has proven that it provides a major boost, so yes, Vegetto still owns everything.

It is the given/official explanation for how the potara fusion works. A x B = Fusion power. Makes little to no sense, but for a what-if like this... *shrug*

[Rocketman]

It is the given/official explanation for how the potara fusion works.

No, it isn't. It's the given explanation for how Vegetto works. The page says nothing about Kibitokai, only that "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto".

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It is the given/official explanation for how the potara fusion works. A x B = Fusion power. Makes little to no sense, but for a what-if like this... *shrug*

The "A x B = C" formula is not nessesarily literal.

The "equation" isn't part of a sentence or anything. It's more like a big blurb that happens to be on the page. Not only that, but "x" isn't always a multiplication sign. The manga Hunter x Hunter isn't "Hunter times Hunter"; when Digimon fuse in Xros Wars, "Digimon A x Digimon B" doesn't refer to a multiplication, but a "cross" of the two. It could simply be taken as "Goku crossed with Vegeta gets you Vegetto"--I mean, if it had been "Goku + Vegeta = Vegetto", I definitely wouldn't have taken it as math, but in the literal "you put these two together and get this guy" sort of way. But with the line about it being "as great as multiplication" on the same page, I can see why people take it the way they do.

The Daizenshuu & TV Anime Guide: Dragon Ball Z Son Goku Densetsu (maybe other guidebooks too, I don't know) say that Gotenks is several times stronger than Goten & Trunks individually, yet the Son Goku Densetsu guidebook has this:



Daizenshuu say the same thing about Vegetto (several times stronger than Goku/Vegeta), and GT Perfect Files say that SS4 Gogeta is several dozens times stronger than SS4 Goku/Vegeta. Toriyama has mentioned that he had Fusion's power boost greater than Super Saiyan's power boost in his mind when he was thinking the concept, and Potara have been said to give stronger results than Fusion. So, Potara > Fusion > Super Saiyan.

[Fox666]

"Goku x Vegeta" can be interpretation in the same sense as the picture above, just a form of saying they will merge. However the Super Exciting Guide do mention "as tremendous as multiplication" in the description. But do "as tremendous as" means "exactly"? I don't know.

[Bussani]

Yeah, honestly, it's all very vague. We could take it any number of ways. I just have no trouble taking it as a multiplication of Goku and Vegeta's powers when it comes to Vegetto himself, because...why not? Vegetto's power might as well be anything.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

It's obviously literal. It's what it is, Goku x Vegeta= Vegetto. It's how he owns Boo. If Boo was a minute old infant, then Vegetto is Hulk.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It's obviously literal. It's what it is, Goku x Vegeta= Vegetto. It's how he owns Boo. If Boo was a minute old infant, then Vegetto is Hulk.

"Goten + Trunks = Gotenks" obviously isn't literal. As for the "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto", maybe it is, maybe it's not. We don't know.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

It's obviously literal. It's what it is, Goku x Vegeta= Vegetto. It's how he owns Boo. If Boo was a minute old infant, then Vegetto is Hulk.

"Goten + Trunks = Gotenks" obviously isn't literal. As for the "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto", maybe it is, maybe it's not. We don't know.

Goten + Trunks = Gotenks is completely different thing. It's talking about 2 characters combining into one person, not power. It's like red + blue = purple.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Goten + Trunks = Gotenks is completely different thing. It's talking about 2 characters combining into one person, not power. It's like red + blue = purple.

I wouldn't say so. "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto" could also be like "Dragon Ball x One Piece = Cross Epoch". The "x" could mean "cross" as well.

[dario03]

I don't think its literal, like I said in a thread when I started posting here again you can't really times a power level by a power level without either running into some convesion problems or coming up with a battle power squared. Plus didn't Gohan Buu make Vegetto somewhat try a tiny tiny bit a couple of times (I know he did in the anime but don't remember if he did in the manga) if it was literally power level times power level then I can't see that happening. Plus does the Goku x Vegeta part even mention power levels?

[Bussani]

I don't think its literal, like I said in a thread when I started posting here again you can't really times a power level by a power level without either running into some convesion problems or coming up with a battle power squared. Plus didn't Gohan Buu make Vegetto somewhat try a tiny tiny bit a couple of times (I know he did in the anime but don't remember if he did in the manga) if it was literally power level times power level then I can't see that happening. Plus does the Goku x Vegeta part even mention power levels?

"Battle power" is used in the paragraph that talks about it being "something as great as multiplication". The "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto" thing technically isn't part of the paragraph, but is on the same page. Vegetto never struggled in the manga, but he also went Super Saiyan right away, which some people think means he needed Super Saiyan to be stronger than Buu. As you'd expect, others disagree.