Interesting tidbit, if you look at the Farmer's gun, it's actually a rifle. Anyway, despite being armed with only a 6 shot revolver, the "Dr. Wily" clone would probably win since his shots were dead on. And this is a dude who was injured with one arm to shoot.
The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Hard to say. I think Chiaotzu and Yamcha would be able to defeat Monster Zarbon and under (Yamcha gave up training pretty early and Chiaotzu was always pretty weak), Tenshinhan might be able to defeat Ginyu, and Kurilin might be able to defeat Freeza's first form.dbzfan7 wrote:Human Z Fighters (EOZ) vs DBZ
How far would they get in one on one match ups against every person. Who would be their limit.
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Tenshinhan and Kuririn could each take down Captain Ginyu after a good battle. Yamcha might be able to defeat Butta, Jheese, or Recoome one-on-one, but get spanked if two or more of them took him on at once. Chaozu... I dunno, somewhere around that, too. He might even be stronger than Yamcha.dbzfan7 wrote:Human Z Fighters (EOZ) vs DBZ
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During Freeza arc in the anime, Chaozu was stronger than Gurd, Yamcha was stronger than Reacoom, and Tenshinhan was stronger than Jheese & Butta together. I don't think that would be possible at that time, but I believe that would be possible after their training with Kaio. So, after 21 years, with the training they had gone through then:dbzfan7 wrote:Human Z Fighters (EOZ) vs DBZ
How far would they get in one on one match ups against every person. Who would be their limit.
Tenshinhan would be able to beat Second-form Freeza
Kuririn would be able to beat First-form Freeza
Yamcha would be able to beat Ginyu
Chaozu would be able to beat Reacoom.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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They didn't beat the Ginyu Tokusentai, they knocked them off Kaio's planet.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:During Freeza arc in the anime, Chaozu was stronger than Gurd, Yamcha was stronger than Reacoom, and Tenshinhan was stronger than Jheese & Butta together. I don't think that would be possible at that time, but I believe that would be possible after their training with Kaio. So, after 21 years, with the training they had gone through then:dbzfan7 wrote:Human Z Fighters (EOZ) vs DBZ
How far would they get in one on one match ups against every person. Who would be their limit.
Tenshinhan would be able to beat Second-form Freeza
Kuririn would be able to beat First-form Freeza
Yamcha would be able to beat Ginyu
Chaozu would be able to beat Reacoom.
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They were definitely stronger, if not equals. Either way, the whole fight didn't make any sense.DBZAOTA482 wrote:They didn't beat the Ginyu Tokusentai, they knocked them off Kaio's planet.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Kid Gohan (Namek) vs DBZ
This may be a no brainier but here me out. Instead of Guru unlocking his potential he gets the Elder Kaioshin to do it. How strong would he get. Also I know it sounds ridiculous and it is, but just take it as a stupid what if that makes no sense.
This may be a no brainier but here me out. Instead of Guru unlocking his potential he gets the Elder Kaioshin to do it. How strong would he get. Also I know it sounds ridiculous and it is, but just take it as a stupid what if that makes no sense.
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I see Gohan being stronger than Goku after healing from the Ginyu battle by a good bit. Still, that wouldn't be enough to handle Freeza in his true form once he uses 50% of his power. He'd beat the crap out of everyone else before that, tho.
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Gohan would get as strong as he got when he was an adult IMO, so he should be able to beat Evil Boo (Piccolo, Goten & Trunks absorbed), but loose against Gotenks Boo.dbzfan7 wrote:Kid Gohan (Namek) vs DBZ
This may be a no brainier but here me out. Instead of Guru unlocking his potential he gets the Elder Kaioshin to do it. How strong would he get. Also I know it sounds ridiculous and it is, but just take it as a stupid what if that makes no sense.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I'm with Super Saiyan Turlast x4. I see the whole "hidden power" thing as a factor that changes and increases over time. The Grand Elder of Namek's ritual and the Old Kaioshin's ritual were almost the same thing, with the exception that one brought out all his current hidden power, and the other brought it all out AND MORE (with the added bonus of compiling it all into his base form to replace Super Saiyan).
So yeah, I figure Gohan might end up as powerful as Goku did against Freeza, at best. But without Kaio-Ken, he's not going to do as well.
So yeah, I figure Gohan might end up as powerful as Goku did against Freeza, at best. But without Kaio-Ken, he's not going to do as well.
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That's assuming the power added on top of the potential is a multiplier rather than a set amount.Kaboom wrote: So yeah, I figure Gohan might end up as powerful as Goku did against Freeza, at best.
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I don't know, but it doesn't sound strange that it is a multiplier. At least the Daizenshuu descibres the Super Saiyan as using the hidden powers of someone, which is a multiplicator. The same is probably true for the Kaio-ken.
But what exactly is the "hidden powers" anyway? An explanation is that normally someone only has access to a small amount of his strength, and for a Saiyan that amount is less than 0.25% (1/400). In Rou Kaioshin case, he can make them use 1,000%, so not even the Super Saiyan makes difference anymore.
But what exactly is the "hidden powers" anyway? An explanation is that normally someone only has access to a small amount of his strength, and for a Saiyan that amount is less than 0.25% (1/400). In Rou Kaioshin case, he can make them use 1,000%, so not even the Super Saiyan makes difference anymore.
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Future Gohan (potential unlocked by Old Supreme Kai) vs. Fat Buu?
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Assuming the power given by Rou Kaioshin is proportional, the question would be if the difference beetween Gohan from Trunks' future and Innocent Boo is higher than Gohan during the Boo saga and Evil Boo. These are some grey areas, so frankly I don't know the answer.
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If it's proportional to current power I see Future Gohan getting horribly slaughtered by Dabra, let alone Fat Boo.
Here's another match up:
SS3 Goku (Boo Saga, but after training another day in RoSaT) vs Super Boo.
Here's another match up:
SS3 Goku (Boo Saga, but after training another day in RoSaT) vs Super Boo.
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Janemba in his second form vs. General Rilldo in his first form. Rilldo can't transform, who wins?
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I think I'll side with Janemba.Hellspawn28 wrote:Janemba in his second form vs. General Rilldo in his first form. Rilldo can't transform, who wins?
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Fat Buu no contest.mysticboy wrote:Future Gohan (potential unlocked by Old Supreme Kai) vs. Fat Buu?
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General Rilldo is stated to be stronger than Majin Boo but it was never expletively shown how much stronger so it can swing either way.Hellspawn28 wrote:Janemba in his second form vs. General Rilldo in his first form. Rilldo can't transform, who wins?
Fat Boomysticboy wrote:Future Gohan (potential unlocked by Old Supreme Kai) vs. Fat Buu?
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
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Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan all Super Saiyan 2 vs. Fat Boo.
Could they have done it?
Could they have done it?